Gravitational Interaction Between Two Orbits

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The discussion revolves around the gravitational interaction between two small asteroids in circular orbits. Participants are tasked with calculating the gravitational force, acceleration, and orbital period of the asteroids, given their masses and the distance between them.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the gravitational force calculation using Newton's law of universal gravitation. There are attempts to find the acceleration of each asteroid and the period of their orbits. Questions arise regarding the correct application of formulas and the relevance of Kepler's laws in this context.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in understanding the acceleration calculation, while others are still exploring how to determine the orbital period. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of the center of mass and the relationship between acceleration and circular motion, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to incorporate Kepler's laws.

Contextual Notes

Participants are ignoring the gravitational influence of the sun for parts of the problem, which may affect their calculations and assumptions. There is also mention of using reduced mass in the context of the problem, indicating varying interpretations of the approach to take.

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Two small asteroids orbit each other in circular orbits. The distance between the centers
of the two asteroids is 35 m. The mass of the larger asteroid is 3 x 10 6 kg and the mass of the smaller asteroid is 1.2 x 10 5 kg.
a. )What is the magnitude of the gravitational force of interaction between the
two asteroids?
b.) What is the acceleration of each asteroid?
c.) What is the period of the circular orbits of each of the two asteroids?
Ignore the force of the sun acting on the asteroids for parts b & c.

a)F= Gm1m2/r2=(6.667*10-11 Nm2/kg2)(3*106 kg)(1.2*105 kg)/(35 m)2=0.020 N

b)I am try to find r, so I can insert into this equation:
g'=GmE/r^2

This is the equation i used to determine rE:
rE=sqrt(Gme/g)
I got, re=0.0009037 m

That doesn't look right to me
Any help?

c)How do I solve for the period of circular orbits?
 
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needhelp83 said:
Two small asteroids orbit each other in circular orbits. The distance between the centers
of the two asteroids is 35 m. The mass of the larger asteroid is 3 x 10 6 kg and the mass of the smaller asteroid is 1.2 x 10 5 kg.
a. )What is the magnitude of the gravitational force of interaction between the
two asteroids?
b.) What is the acceleration of each asteroid?
c.) What is the period of the circular orbits of each of the two asteroids?
Ignore the force of the sun acting on the asteroids for parts b & c.

a)F= Gm1m2/r2=(6.667*10-11 Nm2/kg2)(3*106 kg)(1.2*105 kg)/(35 m)2=0.020 N

b)I am try to find r, so I can insert into this equation:
g'=GmE/r^2

This is the equation i used to determine rE:
rE=sqrt(Gme/g)
I got, re=0.0009037 m

That doesn't look right to me
Any help?

c)How do I solve for the period of circular orbits?
Are you trying to do this with reduced mass? If so, look here

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/orbv.html#rm

You don't have to do it this way, and since you know the force, that acceleration is easily found from Newton's second law. The period is a bit more difficult because the center of the circular orbit is the center of mass of the system. Each asteroid has its own acceleration, and its own distance from the center of motion. You can find the center of mass and use it do find the distances for each object, or you can convert to the equivalent reduced mass problem.
 
Okay I got b figured out, but now I am just looking at c

I know there is a Kepler's law, but not sure how to incorporate this.

Any help?
 
needhelp83 said:
Okay I got b figured out, but now I am just looking at c

I know there is a Kepler's law, but not sure how to incorporate this.

Any help?
There is a Kepler law, but you don't need it. You know the acceleration and you know the motion is circular. If you found the distance to the CM, that is the radius of the circle. You can find the CM if you need it. From the acceleration and the radius, you can find the speed (centripetal acceleration) and from the speed and the radius you can find the period. Both of course have the same period.
 

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