Gravitational Lensing and Frequency-Dependent Light Travel Time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of gravitational lensing and whether there is a frequency-dependent light travel time that could affect how light is perceived when lensed around massive bodies. The scope includes theoretical implications and potential observational evidence.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if frequency-dependent light travel time would result in light appearing split, similar to a prism effect, when lensed around a massive body.
  • Another participant argues that in General Relativity (GR), the path-bending of null geodesics is independent of color, suggesting that color is relative and does not affect the lensing process.
  • This same participant mentions the possibility of high-energy photons moving at slightly different speeds, referencing a concept related to "vacuum" refractive index.
  • A later reply expresses uncertainty about the term "vacuum" refractive index and indicates a willingness to research it further.
  • Another participant notes difficulty in finding relevant papers on vacuum refractive index, indicating a potential gap in accessible literature on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of frequency-dependent light travel time in gravitational lensing, with no consensus reached on the matter.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the implications of vacuum refractive index and its relevance to gravitational lensing, as well as the challenge of accessing scholarly resources on the topic.

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Light that has traveled millions of years is gravitationaly (lensed) around a body,
if there is any frequency dependent light travel time ,would it not show up as if it
had been split by a prism when it was lensed around said body, or would the various frequencies recombine?
 
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Basically no, the path-bending of null geodesics in GR is independent of colour (indeed, colour is relative).

There are other arguments to consider, the most significant being the recent possible observation that high energy photons move at slightly different speeds (think "vacuum" refractive-index).
 
cesiumfrog said:
Basically no, the path-bending of null geodesics in GR is independent of colour (indeed, colour is relative).

There are other arguments to consider, the most significant being the recent possible observation that high energy photons move at slightly different speeds (think "vacuum" refractive-index).

Thanks cf, i do not know what , "vacuum" refractive-index is, i will look it up, i have an idea but could be way out.
 
The only papers i can find with (vacuum refractive index ) are sub only.
 

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