Gravitational Tendency of Disks & Spheres

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the gravitational tendencies of large-scale structures, such as galaxies and solar systems, forming disks, while smaller bodies like planets tend to be spherical. Participants explore the implications of these shapes for understanding gravitational forces, orbital stability, and the overall structure of the universe.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why larger structures tend to form disks while smaller bodies are spherical, suggesting a relationship to gravitational forces and the organization of matter.
  • Another participant notes that gravity is relatively weak, requiring a significant amount of material to be close together for it to pull matter into a spherical shape.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the balance between centrifugal and gravitational forces, indicating that gravity's strength increases with density and decreases with distance.
  • It is proposed that galaxies and solar systems form disks due to originating from a rotating cloud of matter, which influences the stability of orbits for objects in relation to the plane of rotation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views regarding the formation of disk and spherical shapes, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on the underlying reasons or implications.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about gravitational strength, the definition of stability in orbits, and the implications for the universe's overall shape and rotation, which remain unresolved.

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Hi!

Can someone illuminate why there are gravitational tendency in larger scale to form disks (galaxies, solar systems, accretion disks) whereas all smaller scale bodies (planets etc.) are spherical?
What about the spherical halos in the galaxies, is just "unorganized matter" which will "settle" in time and be part of the galaxy disk? How about the universe then? If it is not disk like or spherical, does it mean that universe is not rotating as a whole? Or is it because the universe is not in its final shape yet if there is one final shape ever to be?

Thanks!
 
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Gravity isn't very strong.
To form a star or a planet you must have a lot of material pretty close together for gravity to pull it into a ball, the stars in the galactic halo are rather a long way apart and so the gravitational force on them isn't very strong.
 
It comes down to the balance between centrifugal and gravitational forces. As mgb says, gravity is quite weak, but it goes as 1/r^2 so it only starts to become strong enough to make spheres at very high densities or small sizes.
 
Galaxies and solar systems are disks because they form from a single rotating cloud of matter, and an object above or below the plane of rotation would not be as likely to have a stable orbit.
 

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