Gravitational Time Dilation: Radius & Clock Rate Variation Explained

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The discussion centers on the analysis of gravitational time dilation using the Schwarzschild coordinates to understand how clock rates vary with distance from a massive object. The user calculated the radius (r) for two scenarios: when the fast clock ticks 10 times faster than the slow clock (resulting in r = rs × 100/99) and when it ticks 2 times faster (yielding r = rs × 4/3). Contrary to expectations, the latter scenario produced a larger radius, illustrating that clocks tick more slowly at the center of a gravitational field compared to higher altitudes. This highlights the non-intuitive nature of gravitational time dilation.

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(Apologies I posted this initially as a conversation. Not familiar with the format)

I used the ‘gravitational time dilation’ equation to see how the clock rate varies with distance from the center of an object. I got the opposite result to what I was expecting.From Wikipedia;

Gravitational time dilation outside a non-rotating sphere

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t0 is the proper time between events A and B for a slow-ticking observer within the gravitational field,

tf is the coordinate time between events A and B for a fast-ticking observer at an arbitrarily large distance from the massive object (this assumes the fast-ticking observer is using Schwarzschild coordinates, a coordinate system where a clock at infinite distance from the massive sphere would tick at one second per second of coordinate time, while closer clocks would tick at less than that rate),

r is the radial coordinate of the observer (which is analogous to the classical distance from the center of the object, but is actually a Schwarzschild coordinate),

rs is the Schwarzschild radius.I was interested to find out how the radius r varies with the time ratio t0/ tf for a given mass.

I plugged in t0/ tf = 1/10

This is effectively asking what is r when the fast clock is running 10 times faster than the slow clock.

The answer is r = rs X 100/99Then I asked what is r when the fast clock is running 2 times faster than the slow clock.

I plugged in t0/ tf = ½ expecting a smaller radius

I got the answer r = rs X 4/3 which is a bigger radius than the previous case.Clocks tick more slowly at the center than higher up. The higher up (the greater the radius) the faster a clock ticks relative to the center clock.Looking to clear up my confusion
 
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Zman said:
Clocks tick more slowly at the center than higher up. The higher up (the greater the radius) the faster a clock ticks relative to the center clock
Yes. Incidentally, the analysis you are doing assumes the clock is hovering (or sitting on a solid surface), not orbiting.

The numbers you give seem consistent with this - the slowest clock is at about 1.01##r_S##, the next fastest is higher up at 1.33##r_S##, and the fastest clock is at infinity.

Edit: so ##r## is the "altitude" of the lower clock. This is being compared to a clock at infinity.

Edit2: ##t_0/t_f=1/2## means that the clock at infinity ticks twice in the time it takes the lower clock to tick once.
 
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Ibix said:
Edit: so r is the "altitude" of the lower clock. This is being compared to a clock at infinity.

Yes, the lower clock running at half the rate of the clock at infinity will have a larger radius than the lower clock running at a tenth the rate of the clock at infinity. Obvious. Though I need to make a note of how to correctly interpret the equation.

Thank you for that.
 

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