Gravitational time dilation for a spherical body of finite radius

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The discussion revolves around gravitational time dilation within a spherical, non-rotating body, specifically addressing the applicability of various formulas and methods for calculating time dilation at different radii, including at the center of the body. The scope includes theoretical considerations and relativistic methods.

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  • One participant proposes using the gravitational time dilation formula √(1-r_s/r) for a spherical body but notes its limitation at r=0 and suggests using gravitational potential instead.
  • Another participant argues that while the Newtonian approximation can be used, a fully relativistic approach is also available for static spherically symmetric fluids, referencing standard texts for derivations.
  • A later reply reiterates the interest in a more accurate fully relativistic method and mentions Schwarzschild's interior solution as relevant.
  • Another post links to Schwarzschild's interior solution and states that the gravitational time dilation factor inside a uniform sphere is given by a specific term, although details are not elaborated.

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Participants express differing views on the validity and applicability of the Newtonian approximation versus fully relativistic methods, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the best approach.

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The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the nature of the fluid or the conditions under which the proposed formulas are valid, particularly in relation to the interior of the spherical body.

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I am considering the gravitational time dilation at the centre of a spherical, non-rotating body (such as the Earth). The usual formula for gravitational time dilation is √(1-r_s/r) where r_s is the Schwarzschild Radius and r is the radius of the clock compared to one at infinity, however, this can't be used for r=0.

I believe the gravitational potential can also be used and the Newtonian approximation gives

V = -GM/r for r>a

V = -GM/2a(3-(r/a)^2) for r<a

where a is the radius of the body

Assuming a >> r_s, can that formula be used to find the time dilation at any radius or is the use of the potential only valid outside the sphere? Is there a more accurate fully relativistic method?
 
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You can certainly use the Newtonian approximation if you wish, assuming that the fluid making up the source is a Newtonian fluid, but you can also very easily do this relativistically for a static spherically symmetric fluid star such that the fluid has no viscosity or heat conduction between fluid elements. You can find derivations and analyses of such static spherically symmetric perfect fluid solutions to Einstein's equation in just about every general relativity text. Once you have such an interior solution (i.e. the interior metric) and use the fact that Birkhoff's theorem forces the exterior space-time geometry to be Schwarzschild, you can straightforwardly derive gravitational time dilation using the usual technique.

See chapter 10 of Schutz "A First Course in General Relativity", section 6.2 of Wald "General Relativity", chapter 7 of Straumann "General Relativity", chapter 10 of Hobson et al. "General Relativity: An Introduction for Physicists", and chapter 16 of Stephani et al. "Exact Solutions of Einstein's Field Equations".
 
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