Gravity and the earth's geometry

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The discussion explores the relationship between the shape of the Earth and its gravitational effects, specifically considering a hypothetical flat Earth scenario. Participants examine how gravity might change with different geometries and the implications of these changes on gravitational pull.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how a flat Earth would affect gravity, asking if it would increase, decrease, or remain constant.
  • Another participant suggests using Gauss's Law to analyze the gravitational field of a flat Earth, drawing parallels to the electric field of an infinite plane of charge.
  • A different participant posits that a flat Earth could lead to a constant gravitational pull with distance, similar to the behavior of an infinite charged plate.
  • This participant also speculates that the gravitational pull of a flat Earth could be higher than that of a spherical Earth, depending on the mass distribution and thickness of the flat layer.
  • One participant challenges the notion of a flat Earth by pointing out observable evidence of Earth's curvature, such as the visibility of ships at sea.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of a flat Earth for gravity, with no consensus reached on whether gravity would increase, decrease, or remain constant. The discussion includes both supportive and opposing arguments regarding the flat Earth hypothesis.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the mass distribution and geometry of a flat Earth remain unresolved, and the discussion does not reach a definitive conclusion regarding the gravitational effects of such a shape.

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Hi all,
I was just wondering if the Earth had a flat shape, then what could we say about the gravity? In other words how would the shape of the Earth affect its gravity? Would the gravity increase, decrease, be constant, or are there other factors that we should take into consideration?

thnx in advance!
 
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sutupidmath said:
Hi all,
I was just wondering if the Earth had a flat shape, then what could we say about the gravity? In other words how would the shape of the Earth affect its gravity? Would the gravity increase, decrease, be constant, or are there other factors that we should take into consideration?

thnx in advance!

Do a Gauss's Law equivalent to find the gravitational field the same way one would find the electric field of an infinite plane of charge, and you get the answer.

Besides, for us on earth, the Earth is large enough that we can accurately approximate it as being flat (do you see the Earth curving from where you're standing on the ground?). That's why you can use "g" as being a constant in most cases! So you are already using a "flat earth" result.

Zz.
 
A charged metal plate of infinite dimensions (and infinitesimal width) creates an electrical field that does not depend on the distance from it. As I recall this is the case for finite plates for short distances. Since gravity and the electric force dwindle similarly with distance I'd conclude the same for a flat earth. So, if you take a round Earth and flatten it out to a thin enough layer, you would get a constant gravitational pull with distance.

As for the strength of the pull compared to that of a sphere (as measured by a man on it's surface), my guess was that it would be reduced. But I looked at the equations and am not so sure now. Since one would stand on the surface of the flat earth, it would be possible to let the layer of the Earth be thicker to allow an undifferential pull for a few kilometers (say 5 km for as high as a scientist would climb to measure gravity). With a thicker surface, the "facial" mass density of the flat Earth would increase. When the whole mass would fill a surface of R^2 (R is the radius of our spherical earth), the gravitational pull of the flat Earth would be higher than ours. And 5 kilometers would seam near enough to allow a somewhat constant field. However, there won't be enough land to suffice the real estate in need, so maybe my guess would still stand for a flat Earth of sufficient space. But since this place cannot ever exist due to human tendency for gluttony, I would conclude an increase in the gravitational pull of any reasonable flat earth.
 
ZapperZ said:
(do you see the Earth curving from where you're standing on the ground?)

Just to nitpick and be difficult: Yes you do. You can see the top of a ship sailing in from the ocean before you see the bottom parts. This is due to the curvature of the earth.

k
 

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