Gravity verses electromagnetic attraction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between gravity and electromagnetic (E&M) attraction, exploring whether gravity can be understood as a larger-scale version of electromagnetic forces. Participants delve into the differences and similarities between these two fundamental forces, examining their effects on massless particles, the nature of attraction and repulsion, and the potential for unification of the forces.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that gravity and electromagnetic attraction may be fundamentally similar on different scales.
  • Others argue that gravity and E&M are distinct, noting that E&M affects charged particles while gravity affects all mass, including massless particles through phenomena like gravitational redshift.
  • It is noted that gravity is strictly attractive, while electromagnetic forces can attract or repel.
  • Participants discuss the concept of shielding in E&M and the absence of negative mass in gravity, suggesting implications for their differences.
  • Some contributions question the nature of gravity, suggesting it may be a result of the bending of space rather than a force in the traditional sense.
  • There are claims that gravity can be repulsive under certain conditions, prompting requests for clarification and elaboration.
  • Discussions include the unification of fundamental forces, with references to string theory and the ongoing quest for a comprehensive understanding of both gravity and E&M.
  • Questions arise regarding the role of neutrons in generating gravity, with conflicting views on whether they contribute to gravitational fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of gravity and its relationship to electromagnetic forces. There is no consensus on whether gravity can be considered a form of electromagnetic attraction or if they are fundamentally different forces.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific interpretations of physical phenomena, and there are unresolved questions about the mechanisms behind gravity and its interaction with mass and massless particles. The discussion also touches on the philosophical implications of unifying physical theories.

  • #61
Nabeshin said:
Also, gravity is strictly an attractive force, whereas electromagnetism can work to attract or repel.

Hi there Nabeshin,

Could you do me a favour and explain to me how attraction is actioned or possible?

As I was under the impression all forces are Repulsive..

Cheers,

Peter J schoen..
 

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