Greatest Common Divisor Theorems definition clarification.

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The discussion clarifies the definitions of the Greatest Common Divisor (GCD) theorem as presented in two sources: Eynden (2001) and Johnson (1965). The first definition states that for any positive integers \(m\) and \(n\), integers \(x\) and \(y\) can be chosen such that \(d = \text{gcd}(m, n)\). The second definition asserts that if \(m\) and \(n\) are relatively prime, there exist integers \(x\) and \(y\) such that \(xm - ny = 1\). The participants conclude that the emphasis on positive integers in the second definition is unnecessary, as the nature of integers encompasses both positive and negative values.

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Hi,

I read definition of GCD theorem, from book and from mathWorld website.

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There are two different statements, each separately known as the greatest common divisor theorem.
This does not make sanse
1. Given positive integers
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and
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, it is possible to choose integers
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and
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such that
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, where
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is the greatest common divisor of
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and
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(Eynden 2001).
This make sense

2. If
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and
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are relatively prime positive integers, then there exist positive integers
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and
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such that
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(Johnson 1965).
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if I take 2nd definition from above
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and take
m=12
n=7
then divisors:

12X1,6x2,4x3
7x1
gdc=1

and according to second definition.
x=3
y=5
xm - ny = 1
(12x3 ) - (7x5) = 1
36 -35 = 1
it make sense.
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but 1st definition says
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,
we take again
m=12 and
n=7

no matter what values of 'x' and 'y' we pick, we can not make d smaller so it can become '1'.
Unless we select negative x and y.
 
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knockout_artist said:
no matter what values of 'x' and 'y' we pick, we can not make d smaller so it can become '1'.
Unless we select negative x and y.
So? The sign doesn't play any role in here, since ##\pm 1## are both unities (inverible elements). The emphasis on positive integers in definition 2 isn't really necessary here. Maybe Johnson needed it for further proofs in his context. But as the entire concept deals with the nature of integers, there is simply no meaning in dividing them into positive and negative numbers.
 
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