Ground State Energy of Diatomic Molecule

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The discussion revolves around the ground state energy of a diatomic molecule, specifically examining the Hamiltonian and the effects of an external field on the energy levels. It includes aspects of quantum mechanics, perturbation theory, and the definitions of ground and excited states.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a Hamiltonian for a diatomic molecule and proposes an expression for the ground state energy, questioning its correctness.
  • Another participant suggests writing down the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues of the unperturbed Hamiltonian to find the first-order energy shift due to perturbation.
  • A subsequent post confirms that the first-order correction to the ground state energy is given by the expectation value of the perturbing Hamiltonian.
  • One participant raises a question about the possibility of an electronic excited state being lower in energy than a non-excited state, prompting a response about the definitions of ground and excited states.
  • A later reply asserts that the ground state is defined as the state with minimum energy, implying that excited states cannot have lower energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is a disagreement regarding the nature of ground and excited states, with one participant questioning the definitions while another insists on the established understanding of these terms. The correctness of the initial energy expression and the application of perturbation theory also remain topics of exploration without consensus.

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The discussion involves assumptions about the Hamiltonian and the nature of the perturbation, which are not fully explored. There may be limitations in the definitions of states and energy levels that are not addressed in detail.

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Participants interested in quantum mechanics, particularly those studying molecular systems and perturbation theory, may find this discussion relevant.

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I am looking at a diatomic molecule where the Hamiltonian is given as

H = l²/2I + F*d*cos theta

where d is the dipole moment. The term F*d*cos theta is small. I write the energy of ground state as

E_0 = \hbar*l*(l+1)/ 2I

Than I have to determine how much the ground-state energy changes as a result of interaction with the field. I have two questions:

1. Is the ground state energy correct - it should not be <psi_0|H|psi_0)?

2. How to proceed using first-order perturbation theory


Thanks in advance
 
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1. Write down the eigenfunctions of the unperturbed hamiltonian, H _0 = L^2/2I (recall from the hydrogen atom), and it's eigenvalues (already written above).

2. From the eigenfunctions, \phi _n ^{(0)} and the eigenvalues, E_n^{(0)}, what expression gives you the first order energy shift due to the perturbing hamiltonian, H _1?
 
so the change will be given as
E_1 = <psi_0|V|psi_0>
where V is the small term?
 
That's right, that's the first order correction to the ground state energy.
 
Thanks could there be a situation where an electronic excited state could be "ground state" for a molecule - having lower energy than a none excited state?
 
The ground state is the state with minimum energy. If the energy is quantized (which happens only in bound states), then states with higher energy are called "excited states". So your question is meaningless...
 

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