Group theory and quantum mechanics

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This discussion focuses on the application of group theory to quantum mechanics, specifically in deriving complete basis functions using the triangle group for CH3Cl. The importance of symmetry in group representation theory is emphasized, as it is essential for defining the system's behavior. The user successfully derived symmetrized basis functions and is now tasked with finding eigenvalues from a block diagonal matrix. The discussion highlights the challenge of interpreting off-diagonal elements in a 5x5 matrix representation.

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How to you get sets of complete basis functions using group theory ? For example , using triangle group for CH3 Cl ?
 
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The question's so general, you can write books about the answer. It has to do with the system's set of symmetries. If there's no symmetry, there's no group representation theory.
 
Hi , I misunderstood the question sorry about that . I am new to group theory and quantum mechanics. Anyway,
I did the problem and got the symmetrized basis functions .
Next step would be to find the eigenvalues. The matrix I have is in block diagonal form.
\left(
\begin{array}{ccccc}
\left(
\begin{array}{c}
\beta
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
-\delta
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
-\sqrt{3} \gamma
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) \\
\left(
\begin{array}{c}
-\delta
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
\epsilon
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) \\
\left(
\begin{array}{c}
-\sqrt{3} \gamma
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
-2 \alpha
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) \\
\left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
\alpha
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) \\
\left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
0
\end{array}
\right) & \left(
\begin{array}{c}
\alpha
\end{array}
\right)
\end{array}
\right)
My question would be ? The basis functions from the 2-D representation looks like they are eigenfunctions but what about the 3*3 matrix that are in off diagonal form in the 5*5 matrix ? What do I do with that ?
 

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