Growth proportional to square root of worth.

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The discussion revolves around modeling a firm's fortune growth, which is stated to be proportional to the square root of its worth. Participants explore the formulation of a differential equation to represent this relationship, including initial value problems and integration techniques.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about using the equation $f=kw^2$ to model the growth of a firm's fortune.
  • Another participant requests a translation of the statement about growth into a differential equation.
  • A participant clarifies that the firm's fortune is a function of its worth and seeks assistance in setting up a differential equation.
  • A later reply indicates a participant's struggle to follow previous explanations and expresses a desire to understand the problem better.
  • One participant proposes an initial value problem (IVP) with the equation $\frac{dW}{dt}=k\sqrt{W}$ and provides a step-by-step solution involving separation of variables and integration.
  • The same participant derives the solution $W(t)=(2t+1)^2$ after determining the constant $k$ using boundary conditions.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial approach to the problem, with some expressing confusion and others providing a detailed mathematical solution. The discussion includes both uncertainty and proposed methods without resolving the differing levels of understanding.

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Some participants express confusion about the initial setup and the transition to the differential equation, indicating potential gaps in understanding or assumptions about the problem's formulation.

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Hi! :o I'm stuck :confused:
I was thinking I need to use the equation $f=kw^2$ but I'm really not sure.
 

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So that first sentence there: "A firm has a fortune that grows at a yearly rate proportional to the square root of its worth." Can you translate that sentence into a differential equation?
 
ineedhelpnow said:
Hi! :o I'm stuck :confused:
I was thinking I need to use the equation $f=kw^2$ but I'm really not sure.

A firm has a fortune that grows at a yearly rate proportional to the square root of its worth

Suppose the firm's fortune is given by $$n(w)$$, the firm's worth is $$w$$ and the time taken is $$t$$. Can you set up an differential equation to show the firm's fortune in terms of worth at a given time

$$\dfrac{dn}{dt} \propto \sqrt{w} \ \rightarrow \dfrac{dn}{dt} = k \sqrt{w}$$ where $$k$$ is some constant

edit: making it clear that $$n$$ is a function of $$w$$
 
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Sorry for the late response. The assignment was due and I got really distracted after but I'd still like to work through the problem to see how it's done.

@Ackbach No, I don't. Well until SuperSonic showed it. :p I still don't understand where to go from there. I'm super lost.

@SuperSonic Thank you :D
 
I would let time $t=0$ be at 1/2 year ago, and let $W$ be measured in millions of dollars. Then I would state the IVP:

$$\frac{dW}{dt}=k\sqrt{W}$$ where $$W(0)=1,\,W\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)=4$$

Separating variables and using the boundaries as limits, we have:

$$\int_1^{W} u^{-\frac{1}{2}}\,du=k\int_0^t\,dv$$

$$2\left[u^{\frac{1}{2}}\right]_1^{W}=k[v]_0^t$$

$$2\left(\sqrt{W}-1\right)=kt$$

Since $k$ is a constant, we can divide through by 2 and still have a constant:

$$\sqrt{W}-1=kt$$

$$W(t)=(kt+1)^2$$

Now, using the second point to determine $k$

$$\left(\frac{k}{2}+1\right)^2=4$$

$$\frac{k}{2}+1=2$$

$$k=2$$

Hence:

$$W(t)=(2t+1)^2$$
 

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