Halliday/Resnick vs. Young/Freedman (Also, Cramster?)

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of two physics textbooks: "Fundamentals of Physics" by Halliday and Resnick, and "University Physics with Modern Physics" by Young and Freedman. Participants share their experiences and opinions on the merits and drawbacks of each text, as well as considerations for supplemental resources like Cramster.com for additional problem-solving support.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that many introductory physics texts cover the same topics in a similar order, suggesting that the choice may not significantly impact learning.
  • Another participant advises choosing one textbook to avoid wasting time on indecision.
  • A different viewpoint suggests acquiring both textbooks to benefit from different explanations and examples, particularly for challenging problems.
  • Some participants discuss the practicality of obtaining older editions of textbooks, arguing that they are sufficient for studying classical physics.
  • There are mentions of the MIT OpenCourseWare (OCW) as a useful supplement, with suggestions on how to access materials offline.
  • Participants inquire about the utility of Cramster.com for additional answers and whether the free account suffices compared to paid options.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on which textbook to choose, with no consensus reached. Some advocate for one text over the other, while others propose using both. The discussion on Cramster.com also reflects varying perspectives on its value.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential limitations of relying solely on newer editions of textbooks, suggesting that older editions may be just as effective for self-study in classical physics.

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I posted here a while ago asking for recommendations for a physics textbook in order for my mother and I to teach ourselves physics - thank you so much for all your help! - and after much internet research and discussion, we've narrowed it down basically to either:

Fundamentals of Physics by David Halliday, Robert Resnick, Jearl Walker
OR
University Physics with Modern Physics by Hugh D. Young, Roger A. Freedman

For every site/person I've found that recommends one, I find another recommending the other. I'd love to hear pros, cons, likes, and dislikes!

(Re: MIT online thing - I did look into it and it does look promising, but it was eventually vetoed as a main guide due to the fact that here in rural Kentucky the internet and cable can go down for days or weeks at a time.)

ALSO, we were looking at that site Cramster.com as a source of answers if we need more than just the book's own answer key. Has anyone here used it? It is worth signing up for? Is the free account enough, or is it really worth paying for whatever it is paid accounts get?
 
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I have 5 different 'standard' intro texts on my shelf- they are all the same. Same topics, same order of presentation, totally interchangeable.
 
I think the best thing is to just go with one, and stop stressing and losing time over which to choose.
 
You don't need continuous access for the MIT site -- most of their courses have a link that let's you download everything but the video lectures in one zip package, then you just unzip it on your PC. I would at least get it as a supplement.

As for the texts, why not get both? Then if you don't understand something in one, you may find that the other explains it better. And you may find that a very tough problem in one is a worked example in the other.

Instead of spending $200 on the latest edition of one or the other, go on Ebay or Amazon's used book store and get both for a combined total of 30 bucks or so, for editions ten or so years old. For somebody studying at home, there will be no difference at all between a book ten years old, and next year's edition. I have a copy of Halliday from 1975, and it would work just fine. You will be studying classical physics, which was pretty much set by 1900.
 
As far as MIT OCW goes, you can also download all of the videos off of iTunes U, so you don't need a constant internet connection at all!
 

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