Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Hamiltonian for a simple harmonic oscillator (SHO) transitioning from Hilbert space to Fock space within the context of second quantization. Participants explore the implications of operator ordering and the role of vacuum energy in this derivation.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant seeks guidance on deriving the Hamiltonian for a SHO in Fock space, expressing uncertainty about the transition from Hilbert space.
- Another participant suggests expressing position and momentum operators in terms of creation and annihilation operators and mentions the concept of normal ordering to address vacuum energy contributions.
- A participant questions why substituting the position and momentum operators expressed in terms of creation and annihilation operators does not yield the 1/2 hbar omega term, unlike the conventional derivation starting from the product of these operators.
- One reply emphasizes the importance of operator ordering and provides a detailed mathematical derivation involving the squares of the operators to clarify the relationship between the Hamiltonian forms.
- Another participant advises against using images for equations, recommending the use of the forum's LaTeX feature for clarity.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the implications of operator ordering and the treatment of vacuum energy, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to derive the Hamiltonian in this context.
Contextual Notes
There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in operator ordering and the definitions of energy levels, which may affect the interpretations of the Hamiltonian forms discussed.