Happy Thanksgiving: Obama Pardons a Turkey?

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The discussion revolves around the Thanksgiving holiday, including traditions such as the presidential turkey pardon, personal celebrations, and reflections on the historical context of the holiday. Participants share their plans, experiences, and thoughts about Thanksgiving, as well as its significance and cultural implications.

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  • Some participants mention the tradition of the president pardoning a turkey, with varying details about where the turkey goes afterward.
  • Several users share their personal Thanksgiving plans, including family gatherings and meal preparations.
  • There are reflections on the historical significance of Thanksgiving, with mentions of early settlers and their challenges, though interpretations of this history vary.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the holiday's meaning and its cultural connotations, noting that it may be alien to them.
  • A few comments touch on the humorous aspects of Thanksgiving, including the idea of it being an excuse to indulge in food.

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Participants generally share a common sentiment of wishing each other a happy Thanksgiving, but there are differing views on the holiday's significance and traditions. Some express confusion or lack of familiarity with the holiday's origins, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding its cultural implications.

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There are varying interpretations of Thanksgiving's historical context, with some participants emphasizing the hardships faced by early settlers while others focus on modern celebrations. The discussion includes personal anecdotes that may not fully align with the broader historical narrative.

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  • #61
Ivan Seeking said:
Jeez, at this point I have to wonder if you are even an American. :biggrin:
Heinz 57! A mix of French-Canadian, (north American) Indian and Irish with a bit of German. Yams and marshmallows don't show up in any of those traditional cuisines. At our Thanksgiving tables, you could count on finding fiddleheads, mincemeat pie made of venison, pies made from apples and wild berries, rum cakes, tourtiere (ground meat and potato pies), head cheese, blood sausage, etc, in addition to the turkey, stuffing, gravy, and traditional vegetables. If you tried to have a decent-sized helping of every dish, you'd die, so it was nice in a way to have an aunt or two that "cooked" crap. It's pretty easy to overlook jello salad and any recipe that came off a bag or a can. A couple of aunts used to make pumpkin pie with canned filling in a store-bought pie shell, so it was a good idea to pay attention, so you'd get a slice of pie made with real fresh pumpkin and a flaky pastry crust. We always had tall, flaky pastry biscuits, too, to make strawberry shortcake with.
 
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  • #62
Marshmallows should only be served in s'mores and hot cocoa, never on a vegetable.

And, yeah, sorry Evo. I didn't really expect the cranberry sauce to work on the turkey sandwich and figured I'd just manage to eat it (I'd rather have a strange tasting sandwich than a dry one), but was surprised at how well it all worked together. Though, I did really start thinking I'd really lost it when I put the stuffing on the sandwich...bread on bread...hmm.

I ate a half sandwich on my drive, and a whole sandwich for dinner tonight, and still have one and a half sandwiches left. Since I'm heading out to party in about an hour, I'm sure at least some of that will come in handy tonight after I'm done drinking. I think I'll save whatever is left for tomorrow night in case whatever food is served at the reunion is skimpy or not very good.
 
  • #63
Moonbear said:
Marshmallows should only be served in s'mores and hot cocoa, never on a vegetable.

And, yeah, sorry Evo. I didn't really expect the cranberry sauce to work on the turkey sandwich and figured I'd just manage to eat it (I'd rather have a strange tasting sandwich than a dry one), but was surprised at how well it all worked together. Though, I did really start thinking I'd really lost it when I put the stuffing on the sandwich...bread on bread...hmm.

I ate a half sandwich on my drive, and a whole sandwich for dinner tonight, and still have one and a half sandwiches left. Since I'm heading out to party in about an hour, I'm sure at least some of that will come in handy tonight after I'm done drinking. I think I'll save whatever is left for tomorrow night in case whatever food is served at the reunion is skimpy or not very good.
Stuffing and home-made cranberry sauce are wonderful on a turkey sandwich. I use rye bread and Cain's real mayonnaise to build the sandwich, and the cranberry and stuffing are "icing on the cake".
 
  • #64
He should have pardoned the turkey that we had. I like the dark meat, but it was dried out so I had to eat white. We set out at 4:00 pm from Princeton, NJ for Boston, MA. The traffic wasn't bad so we arrived at 10:00. The next morning we took in a few sights of downtown Boston and then headed for my cousin's house for visiting family, and then to his granddaughter's house for dinner. Friday morning we visited a cousin of mine who went to a different dinner and then we headed back home. We stopped along the way in Connecticut to visit another cousin, but she forgot we were coming and took a nap. So she didn't answer the phone or the doorbell. We stopped at Mitsuwa along the way for Ramen noodle soup and grocery shopping. Black Friday doesn't mean much for groceries, but technically we did shop. We finally made it back home at 11:00pm. How exhausting. I hope your holiday was as nice as ours, and not so exhausting.
 
  • #65
turbo-1 said:
Heinz 57! A mix of French-Canadian, (north American) Indian and Irish with a bit of German. Yams and marshmallows don't show up in any of those traditional cuisines.

After all of these years you would think I could remember that I love candied sweet potatoes, not yams.

I was wondering about this and checked. It seems that candied sweet potatoes find their origins in the American black slave community.

Thanksgiving thrives as a beloved national feast celebrated by Americans of all ethnic origins and religions. It has expanded with the country beyond the traditional foods like turkey and corn and pumpkins that remind us of the Pilgrims' feast and the generosity of the American Indians. On many African-American tables, next to the dressed bird, this year [1853] there was a sweet potato dish, be it a casserole, a pone, a pie or the classic candied sweet potatoes topped with marshmallows.
http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/columnists_blogs/other_views/story/213451.html

The marshmallow plant also finds its roots in Africa.

Being primarily German and Finnish, my family settled in the midwest US. I have no idea how a traditional African American dish found its way into our family traditions.
 
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  • #66
Ivan Seeking said:
Being primarily German and Finnish, my family settled in the midwest US. I have no idea how a traditional African American dish found its way into our family traditions.

Because when it's good, there ain't no good reason not to eat it.

My mother somehow learned to eat corn on the cob whilst here in America. She used to claim that they didn't know what to do with it back in Germany, so they fed it to the pigs.

Schweine fressen!

Gads I'm thankful I grew up in America.

Speaking of pigs, I think I've become anatomically attached to my couch over the last 48 hours.

hmmm... what does google give me when I search for that?

http://www.google.com/search?q=anatomically+attached+to+the+couch"
STUART, Fla. -- A 480-pound Martin County woman has died after emergency workers tried to remove her from the couch where she had remained for about six years.

:bugeye:

I'll be back later.

I have to cut some ties and go rake some leaves.

:blushing:
 
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  • #67
Good to hear my friends enjoying their Thanksgiving Holiday !

Monique said:
Pumpkin cheesecake? Do you have a recipe for that?

On the weekend after Thanksgiving, I was served a pumpkin cheesecake made using this http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/paula-deen/pumpkin-cheesecake-recipe/index.html" , at a music jam. I must admit it was very tastey. There were some complex flavours going on, from all the fresh spices (cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg, vanilla). For variation I propably would add some grated coconut and pecans. :-p This cheesecake is light (didn't leave a heavy sensation in my stomach).

Astronuc said:
I eat tart cranberry sauce with turkey, but the sauce is not like a sugary jam or jelly, but rather boiled cranberries with minimal sugar.

When it comes to food, we know everyone has their preference. I like homemade http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Basic-Cranberry-Sauce-236532" . Never touch the kind from a tin. The recipes that call for orange rind are going for the zest (citrus oil). Just grate the first 3 mm of the skin. I substitute honey for sweetener and add pumpkin pie spices too (cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves, & ginger). This year I was served some cranberry sauce with dried apricots added to the mix. Yummm..
 
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