Has missing energy been discovered at the LHC?

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The discussion revolves around the topic of missing energy in particle physics, specifically in the context of experiments conducted at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and the implications for the existence of extra dimensions. Participants explore the current state of evidence and theoretical limits regarding these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that no evidence for extra dimensions has been found, suggesting that model-dependent limits can be established regarding their possible size.
  • References to specific papers are made, indicating that the Atlas paper excludes extra dimensions with radii greater than 10-19 m.
  • One participant questions whether there was any missing energy discovered in 2010, citing links that may suggest such findings.
  • Another participant clarifies that the cited paper discusses conjectures about possible signals but emphasizes that no missing energy has been observed, nor evidence for extra dimensions, while noting a lower limit on the modified Planck scale of about 4 TeV based on the absence of mini-black holes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the existence of missing energy and the implications for extra dimensions, with some asserting that no evidence supports these concepts while others reference past findings that may suggest otherwise. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of the cited papers.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific theoretical models and the interpretation of experimental results, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion reflects ongoing uncertainties in the field.

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I've been search through google to find out if there has been anything on missing energy so far, i have found nothing. Is there any evidence for or against extra dimensions?
 
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fzero said:
No evidence for extra dimensions has been found. In the absence of of new physics, model-dependent limits can be placed on the possible size of extra dimensions. The most recent CMS paper on extra dimensions seems to be http://arxiv.org/abs/arXiv:1103.4279, while the Atlas results are older http://arxiv.org/abs/1012.4272.

Wow no missing energy huh?

What energy levels can we rule out extra dimensions?
 
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eiyaz said:
Wow no missing energy huh?

What energy levels can we rule out extra dimensions?

Those papers give values. For example the scale in the Atlas paper excludes extra dimensions whose radii are greater than 10-19 m, which is around one ten-thousandth of the size of a proton.
 
The paper you cite is conjecture on possible signals. In reality, no missing energy has been found, nor evidence for extra dimensions. The lower-limit placed on any modified Planck scale is about 4 TeV, based on the fact that no mini-black holes (that is, their evaporation profiles) have been observed.
 
A/4 said:
The paper you cite is conjecture on possible signals. In reality, no missing energy has been found, nor evidence for extra dimensions. The lower-limit placed on any modified Planck scale is about 4 TeV, based on the fact that no mini-black holes (that is, their evaporation profiles) have been observed.

What about the first link?
 

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