Have to gruadate soon but still undecided

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The discussion revolves around the participant's uncertainty regarding graduate school choices in applied mathematics, computational science, and related fields. Key concerns include the relevance of programming skills, prerequisites for admission, the impact of research experience, and alternative pathways to graduate education.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a strong computational background is beneficial for applied mathematicians, though it may not be a core part of the degree.
  • There is uncertainty about whether most applied mathematicians program regularly, with some suggesting that not all do.
  • Questions arise about the necessity of having taken partial differential equations (PDEs) before entering an applied math program, with some participants indicating that it may be acceptable to enter without this background.
  • Concerns are expressed about whether a single research project would be sufficient for admission to top-tier graduate programs.
  • Some participants discuss the potential value of a graduate degree in math education as a fallback plan, questioning whether it would enhance candidacy for a subsequent PhD program.
  • There is a discussion about the financial viability of living in New York on the stipend associated with the Teach for America program, with differing views on whether it would be sufficient.
  • Suggestions are made to reach out to professors to discuss potential opportunities and fit for graduate studies.

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Participants express a range of views on the necessity of programming skills in applied mathematics, the importance of prior coursework, and the adequacy of research experience for graduate school applications. No consensus is reached on these points.

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Participants highlight the variability in applied mathematics programs regarding computational training and the differing expectations for admission to graduate programs, which may depend on specific institutions and their requirements.

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Students considering graduate studies in applied mathematics or related fields, particularly those with interests in computational science and industry applications.

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my undergraduate funding is running out so i have to graduate soon but i still feel like I'm not sure what i want to go to grad school for. i started uni as a physics major, i added pure math and just recently I've gotten interested in computational science/applied math.

first: am i correct in assuming that most applied mathematicians these days program? if so what is the point of these "computational science" programs? it seems like applied math lite or applied math + all the stuff you should've learned on your own with less time to do applied math.

second: can i get into an applied math program having not taken pdes/self studied pdes? more so than "can i", is it normal enough?

third: would an applied math phd prepare me for industry?

fourth: would it be sufficient to have one research project under my belt/published? I'm working on an computational physics problem right now that I'm enjoying but i don't think i'll have time to complete another one before i graduate. sufficient for top tier schools? i think not...

fifth: physics/pure math is kind of out of the question simply because i feel like if i didn't make it in academia with those specializations i couldn't sell those degrees. of course if i did do physics it would be computational but again that seems to me like it gives me the same skills as an applied math program just a different context to develop them in.

sixth: what can i do to improve my chances of getting into schools that i want to go to? start an email/letter exchange with professors there? go see them? for the record i'd like to go to school in new york, ny.

finally: there's a program in new york called teach for america which pays for a master's in math education from columbia, bard, or nyu but conscripts you to teach high school math for 4 years and gives you a 90k stipend over the 5 years.. though i don't want to be a high school math teacher it's a fall back plan, allows me to move to new york comfortably, and gets me a graduate degree. after completing the 5 years i would go back and get a real phd. will one graduate degree in a semi-related field make me a better candidate for another graduate degree, maybe better my chances at a top tier school? I'm also hoping i might be able to squeeze some audits of real math classes during that year I'm earning the master's in education though that might not be feasible. note I'm not worried about going back to school during early-middle age so no worries there. again this is a fall black plan and will only be seriously considered if you guys think one grad degree will better my chances of getting into a really good school.

if you've gotten all the way down here i appreciate your time.
 
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i'm sorry for the first point: am i correct in assuming most applied mathematicians program these day?
 
first: I don't know if all applied mathematicians in academia do programming (some do) but a strong computational background is usually not a part of an applied math degree (they may take some basic programming courses but that's it).

sixth: You might want to try e-mailing a prof whose work you are interested in. Tell them your skill set and ask them if they have room for someone like you.

finally: 90k over 5 years (18k a year) is not enough to live 'comfortably' in new york.
 
maverick_starstrider said:
first: I don't know if all applied mathematicians in academia do programming (some do) but a strong computational background is usually not a part of an applied math degree (they may take some basic programming courses but that's it).

sixth: You might want to try e-mailing a prof whose work you are interested in. Tell them your skill set and ask them if they have room for someone like you.

finally: 90k over 5 years (18k a year) is not enough to live 'comfortably' in new york.

its 28k during the first year while in school. then the other 62 distributed over 4 plus teacher's salary. it comes out to ~300k earned over 5 years.
 

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