Have you heard about econophysics?

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The discussion revolves around the field of econophysics, exploring its legitimacy as a branch of physics and its relationship with economics. Participants share their perspectives on the application of physical models to economic systems, questioning whether this constitutes a serious area of study within physics or merely an analogy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in pursuing econophysics as a complement to their physics engineering studies, suggesting that mathematical and physical intuition could be applied to economic modeling.
  • Another participant questions the classification of econophysics as a branch of physics, arguing that economics does not have an underlying physical system and that modeling economic systems using physical analogies may not qualify as physics.
  • A similar viewpoint is reiterated, emphasizing that applying physical tools to economic problems does not inherently make the study a branch of physics.
  • One participant suggests that while the application of statistical mechanics to economics is interesting, it may be more aligned with economics than physics, drawing a parallel to hypothetical applications in politics.
  • In response, another participant notes that physicists who work in this area may argue that their focus is on complex systems more broadly, which includes both physical and human systems, and that their methods can provide insights across various domains.
  • Several links to resources on econophysics are shared, indicating interest in further exploration of the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on whether econophysics should be classified as a legitimate branch of physics. There is no consensus, as some view it as a valid application of physics to economics, while others see it as primarily an economic endeavor using physical tools.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the ambiguity in defining econophysics, noting that it relies on the application of physical concepts to economic systems without a clear underlying physical framework. This raises questions about the boundaries of interdisciplinary studies.

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I'm studying physics engineering, and I would like to make a degree in Applied physics, but next to that step I would like to study Econophysics or something related to that area. I really like the area of computacional computing and economics so, I think it is going to be so good to try to propose some models using some of the math and physical intuition that one learns while we are in University.
Do you know if this is a serious part of the physics? Or is it to new area to know so much about it?
Thanks for your advise!
 
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I don't really understand what that would entail. Economics is the study of financial exchanges between humans. I suppose you could try modeling economic systems using known physical systems and see what results you get -- that may be of some interest. I'm not sure I would necessarily classify that as a branch of physics per-se, because you're using the physics as an analogy. There is no underlying physical system to economics.
 
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I don't really understand what that would entail. Economics is the study of financial exchanges between humans. I suppose you could try modeling economic systems using known physical systems and see what results you get -- that may be of some interest. I'm not sure I would necessarily classify that as a branch of physics per-se, because you're using the physics as an analogy. There is no underlying physical system to economics.
I suggest you Google Econophysics
 
I just did, and I'm hesitant to really classify it as physics. It's applying tools derived from physical systems on economic systems, which seems to me to be far less physics, and far more economics. Just because a physicist is approaching a problem using tools they got from physics, doesn't make the subject area necessarily physics. If I successfully applied statistical mechanical tools to election predictions, I wouldn't consider that some new branch of physics called "Politiphysics".
 
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Dewgale said:
I just did, and I'm hesitant to really classify it as physics. It's applying tools derived from physical systems on economic systems, which seems to me to be far less physics, and far more economics. Just because a physicist is approaching a problem using tools they got from physics, doesn't make the subject area necessarily physics. If I successfully applied statistical mechanical tools to election predictions, I wouldn't consider that some new branch of physics called "Politiphysics".

The physicists who apply the methods and tools of statistical mechanics will disagree with you. I believe their counter-arguments are that they are not necessarily interested in just problems with economics (or in your hypothetical example, politics) but in the broader area of the study of complex systems. The physicists who specialize in complex systems apply techniques and methods offered by statistical mechanics and nonlinear physics to gain insights on broader structures that can find applications in both physical systems (e.g. molecular interactions) and human systems (e.g. economics, politics).
 
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