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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational force on a 70 kg astronaut at an altitude of 600 km above the Earth's surface and comparing it to the astronaut's weight at the Earth's surface. The subject area includes concepts of gravity and weight in the context of physics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the gravitational force formula and the variables involved. There are attempts to calculate the astronaut's weight at altitude and on the surface, with some confusion about the results and the application of the formula.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the interpretation of formulas and discussing the calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the formula for gravitational force, but there is still uncertainty about the results and the correct application of the equations.

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There is a noted discrepancy in units, as participants mention the need to convert kilometers to meters when applying the formula. The original poster expresses confusion about the calculations leading to seemingly identical weights at different altitudes.

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Homework Statement



A. Calculate the Earth's gravity force on a 70 kg astronaut who is repairing the Hubble Space Telescope 600 km above the Earth's surface

B. Compare this gravity force with his weight at the Earth's surface. (F/w)

Homework Equations



No idea

w=GmEm/RE^2 is just for the weight, but I don't know how to find part 1, which is needed for part 2.

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know what formulas to use to answer these questions. Thanks.
 
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What's a 70 km astronaut look like?

If you can calculate the weight of the astronaut at an altitude of 600 km, then you should easily be able to determine the weight of the same astronaut on the ground.
 
Is the problem here just knowing how to interpret the formula you have, like you don't know what all of the variables mean and where to plug stuff in?
 
SteamKing said:
What's a 70 km astronaut look like?

If you can calculate the weight of the astronaut at an altitude of 600 km, then you should easily be able to determine the weight of the same astronaut on the ground.
At height h, g = 9.8 x [R/(R+h)]^2
So find g, then use W=mg. The weight, W, is the gravity force.

problem is I get 9.80 m/s^2 here! So then the weight on the ground is the same.

This makes no sense.

9.8 * [6.38*10^6/(6.38*10^6+600)]^2 = 9.80 m/s^2 at the distance of 600 km.

so weight is 686 N, but so is it at Earth. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Villyer said:
Is the problem here just knowing how to interpret the formula you have, like you don't know what all of the variables mean and where to plug stuff in?

Probably, I keep messing the formula I found up miserably.
 
In the radius at the bottom, you added 600. 600 is kilometers, 6.38*10^6 is meters.

Nevermind about the second point I had here a second ago, I was thinking of a different equation.
 
Villyer said:
In the radius at the bottom, you added 600. 600 is kilometers, 6.38*10^6 is meters.

Nevermind about the second point I had here a second ago, I was thinking of a different equation.

Thanks for your help! much appreciated.
 
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