Hawking's latest contribution, is this an implication?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the implications of Stephen Hawking's theories, particularly regarding the potential for matter to eventually convert into photons or electromagnetic waves. Participants reference various articles, including a Physics Review Letter, to explore the relationship between this hypothesis and the concept of entropy. The conversation highlights the speculative nature of these ideas, emphasizing that there is no definitive evidence or consensus in the scientific community regarding the transformation of matter into light.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Hawking radiation and its implications.
  • Familiarity with the concept of entropy in thermodynamics.
  • Basic knowledge of quantum mechanics and particle physics.
  • Ability to differentiate between scientific literature and popular science articles.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the latest findings on Hawking radiation and its implications for black holes.
  • Explore the relationship between entropy and quantum states in radiation.
  • Investigate the concept of effective action in quantum field theory.
  • Read peer-reviewed papers on the quantum state of radiation and its implications.
USEFUL FOR

Physicists, students of theoretical physics, and anyone interested in the implications of Hawking's theories on the nature of matter and light.

jaketodd
Gold Member
Messages
507
Reaction score
21
Does this mean that everything, including us, will turn into photons/electromagnetic waves some day? Sounds fun! A universe of matter converted entirely to light!

I couldn't find any papers yet on this on scholar.google.com

Here are some good articles though:

https://www.livescience.com/space/b...niverse-is-doomed-to-evaporate-new-study-says

With more links:
https://www.google.com/search?q=hawking+evaporation+news

Does this have to do with the concept of Entropy?

Thanks,

Jake
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Demystifier
Physics news on Phys.org
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Demystifier and jaketodd
jaketodd said:
Sounds fun! A universe of matter converted entirely to light!
Well, if there's a nuclear war soon, most of the protons, neutrons and electrons in your body are likely to start moving very close to the speed of light. :oldsurprised:
 
  • Wow
Likes   Reactions: pinball1970
Unfortunately, this effective action approach says nothing about the quantum state of radiation.

Also, as the authors themselves say, "It is not immediately clear whether this is an additional effect to Hawking radiation or a generalization thereof".
 
jaketodd said:
Does this have to do with the concept of Entropy?
In their approach the quantum state of radiation is not known, so one cannot say what's the von Neumann entropy of radiation.
 
jaketodd said:
Hawking's latest contribution
Stephen Hawking died five years ago, this "contribution" is not his (in particular the phenomenon Hawking postulated requires an event horizon whereas this new proposition does not).
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Demystifier
strangerep said:
Well, if there's a nuclear war soon, most of the protons, neutrons and electrons in your body are likely to start moving very close to the speed of light. :oldsurprised:
Darn that Putin! =) Or maybe a nuclear war would, kind of like you say, turn us all in to light, and we wouldn't wait for Hawking to free us! =)
 
Demystifier said:
Unfortunately, this effective action approach says nothing about the quantum state of radiation.

Also, as the authors themselves say, "It is not immediately clear whether this is an additional effect to Hawking radiation or a generalization thereof".
Other than photons, is there any specificity narrowing it down to a possible group of possible particles? That's interesting that it might not just be photons. Forgive me; is this what you mean? Thanks!
 
jaketodd said:
Other than photons, is there any specificity narrowing it down to a possible group of possible particles? That's interesting that it might not just be photons. Forgive me; is this what you mean? Thanks!
No, I mean that they don't write the state of radiation in a Hilbert space. Hence you can't know whether the state is pure or mixed, are there correlations between the particles, etc.
 
  • #10
jaketodd said:
Here are some good articles though
None of these are actual papers. They are pop science. Pop science articles are not a valid basis for discussion in this forum.

jaketodd said:
Does this mean that everything, including us, will turn into photons/electromagnetic waves some day?
This is indeed a speculative hypothesis based on Hawking radiation, and it has been discussed in other PF threads based on actual papers that discuss the hypothesis.
 
  • Haha
Likes   Reactions: jaketodd
  • #11
Since there is no valid basis for discussion given, this thread is closed.
 
  • Sad
Likes   Reactions: jaketodd

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
2K