Heat Equation: Solve with Non-Homogeneous Boundary Conditions

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The discussion revolves around solving the heat equation for a plane wall with non-homogeneous boundary conditions, specifically in the context of thermal contact with two reservoirs. Participants explore various mathematical approaches to address the complexities introduced by these boundary conditions.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario involving a plane wall with constant thermal conductivity and two thermal reservoirs, detailing the boundary conditions at both ends of the wall.
  • Another participant suggests using a Laplace transform in time to reformulate the problem, providing a transformed equation and boundary conditions.
  • A different participant reiterates the necessity of finding the temperature of the air, proposing an ordinary differential equation (ODE) to model its behavior based on the boundary conditions.
  • Concerns are raised about the applicability of separation of variables due to the non-zero boundary conditions, with one participant questioning whether it can be adapted with additional manipulation.
  • There is a request for clarification on the Laplace transform process and its implications for the original partial differential equation (PDE).
  • One participant defines the air temperature in the context of the thermal boundary layer, indicating its relevance to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of separation of variables in this context, and there is no consensus on the best approach to solve the PDE with the given boundary conditions. Multiple methods are proposed, but the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of PDEs and ODEs, which may affect their ability to fully engage with the problem. There are also unresolved aspects regarding the inversion of the Laplace transform and the implications of the boundary conditions on the solution.

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Imagine you have a plane wall with constant thermal conductivity, that is the intermediate between two thermal reservoirs:

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The reservoir on the left is being kept at temp ##T_s##, and it is a fluid that has very high convective coefficient ##h##. As a result, the boundary condition at the LHS wall is given by:

$$ T(0,t) = T_s $$

at time ##t=0## the wall and the cold reservoir are brought into thermal contact with the warm reservoir. The wall and the blue reservoir are both initially at the same uniform temperature ##T(x,0) = T_o##.

The blue reservoir and the wall start to heat up. The boundary condition on the RHS wall is given by:

$$ -k \left. \frac{\partial T}{ \partial x} \right|_{L} = h \left( T(L,t) - T_{air}(t) \right) $$

The heat equation for the plane wall is given by:

$$ \frac{\partial^2 T}{\partial x ^2} = \rho c_p \frac{\partial T}{\partial t}$$

So we have three non-homogenous boundary conditions, what is the idea to solve the PDE? Apparently, separation of variables does not work because of the non-zero boundary conditions.

The only thing I know (almost nothing) about solving PDE's I've learned from YouTube videos... Why does having non-zero boundary conditions throw a fork in it, and how big of a fork is it?

Thanks for any guidance!
 
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What do we know about T_{\mathrm{air}}?

Have you tried a Laplace transform in time? That gives <br /> \kappa(p\hat T - T_0) = \frac{\partial^2 \hat T}{\partial x^2} where \kappa= \rho c_p subject to <br /> \hat T(0,p) = \frac{T_s}{p}, \quad \left.-k\frac{\partial \hat T}{\partial x}\right|_{x=L} = h(\hat T(L,p) - \hat T_{air}(p)). That does leave you with <br /> \hat T(x,p) = \frac{T_0}{p} + A(p)\cosh(\sqrt{\kappa p}x) + B(p)\sinh(\sqrt{\kappa p}x) which is not easy to invert.
 
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pasmith said:
What do we know about T_{\mathrm{air}}?
It's going to be found via the following ODE:

$$ m_{air} c_{air} \frac{dT_{air}}{dt} = h A ( T(L,t) - T_{air}(t) ) + \dot q \tag{2}$$

The first term on the RHS is basically the boundary condition on the right wall. The ##\dot q ## is just a constant term.
pasmith said:
Have you tried a Laplace transform in time? That gives <br /> \kappa(p\hat T - T_0) = \frac{\partial^2 \hat T}{\partial x^2} where \kappa= \rho c_p subject to <br /> \hat T(0,p) = \frac{T_s}{p}, \quad \left.-k\frac{\partial \hat T}{\partial x}\right|_{x=L} = h(\hat T(L,p) - \hat T_{air}(p)). That does leave you with <br /> \hat T(x,p) = \frac{T_0}{p} + A(p)\cosh(\sqrt{\kappa p}x) + B(p)\sinh(\sqrt{\kappa p}x) which is not easy to invert.
I'm not lying when I said the only thing I know about PDE methods is from YouTube. Heck, I have very little formal understanding of ODE's for that matter. Am I understanding correctly that separation of variables simply does not work. Or is it that it takes extra massaging?

I was hoping that if I could find ##T(x,t) = F(x)G(t)##, then I could use:

$$ \left. \frac{\partial T}{ \partial x} \right|_{x=L} = \left. \frac{\partial F}{ \partial x} \right|_{x=L} G(t) $$

subbing into (2) to get some kind of system.

I'm likely just getting all tangled up in stuff that won't work.
 
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pasmith said:
Have you tried a Laplace transform in time? That gives <br /> \kappa(p\hat T - T_0) = \frac{\partial^2 \hat T}{\partial x^2} where \kappa= \rho c_p subject to <br />
<br /> How does this work? I see you have introduced ##p## and the partial w.r.t. time disappears? I’m obviously oblivious to something.
 
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pasmith said:
What do we know about T_{\mathrm{air}}?
In this context, ##T_{air}## is considered the bulk air temperature outside the thermal boundary layer.
 
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