Heat Transfer through multiple walls

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the heat transfer through multiple walls, specifically focusing on a setup involving a steel wall, an air gap, and a plastic wall. Participants are exploring methods to determine the necessary thickness of the air gap to maintain a target temperature of 60°C on the plastic wall while managing heat flow from the steel wall at 350°C.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • The initial poster describes a setup involving a steel wall, an air gap, and a plastic wall, seeking to find the thickness of the air gap to achieve a specific temperature on the plastic wall.
  • One participant suggests using a "thermal-resistive circuit" analysis, comparing heat transfer to electrical circuits, and mentions the relevant equations for thermal resistance.
  • Another participant reiterates the suggestion for a thermal-resistive circuit analysis and provides a link to a resource from MIT for further guidance.
  • A later reply questions whether the air gap will be kept open at the top and bottom to allow for convection cooling, indicating a consideration of airflow in the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus, as the discussion includes multiple approaches and considerations regarding the analysis of heat transfer and the role of convection in the air gap.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the specific conditions of the air gap, such as whether it will be open for convection, and the exact parameters for thermal resistance calculations.

Joey Dela Cruz
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Hi guys,

I am newbie on thread and currently working on a project
I need some help on the Heat flow on multiple walls.

Here is the setup (see figure below)
The first wall is a Steel material which has a 350C temperature(1kwatts) and the an Air Gap is present then followed by a Plastic wall which is required to have around 60C (30watts)

350C(1kwatts)--> |(Steel)|--- |Air Gap| ----|(Plastic)|--->60C(30watts)

The goal for me is to know or get thickness/distance of the Air gap between the Steel and Plastic so to reduce the Heat or Temperature leaving the Plastic wall at 60C
I was trying to use and figure out the solution using the formula
dQ/dT = AΔT/(L1/k1+L2/k2+L3/k3) but was stuck
Any advise here?
 
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I would advise you to try setting up a "thermal-resistive circuit" analysis for this problem. Similar to the classic V=I*R electrical circuits equation, there is a heat transfer analysis method which uses a "T=q*Rt" equation, where T (temperature, K) is equivalent to voltage, q (heat flow, W) is equivalent to current, and Rt (thermal resistance, K/W) is equivalent to resistance. You can find equations for thermal resistance for each of your wall's layers, and then analyze just as you would any other electrical circuit (series thermal resistances are added, parallel thermal resistances use the inverse relationship).

MIT has an online summary of the analysis method I'm describing, you can find it here: http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node118.html
 
Mech_Engineer said:
I would advise you to try setting up a "thermal-resistive circuit" analysis for this problem. Similar to the classic V=I*R electrical circuits equation, there is a heat transfer analysis method which uses a "T=q*Rt" equation, where T (temperature, K) is equivalent to voltage, q (heat flow, W) is equivalent to current, and Rt (thermal resistance, K/W) is equivalent to resistance. You can find equations for thermal resistance for each of your wall's layers, and then analyze just as you would any other electrical circuit (series thermal resistances are added, parallel thermal resistances use the inverse relationship).

MIT has an online summary of the analysis method I'm describing, you can find it here: http://web.mit.edu/16.unified/www/FALL/thermodynamics/notes/node118.html
Thanks Dude...will start from here!
 
@ Joey Dela Cruz.
Will you keep the top and bottom of the air-gap open, so air can rise in the gap and continuously cool the walls by convection ?
 

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