Heating water at 100 °C without coolers?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of heating water at 100 °C for extended periods while exposing metallic materials, specifically without the use of coolers. Participants explore safety concerns, equipment setups, and alternative methods for maintaining temperature and pressure.

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  • One participant inquires about the safety and security of sealing glass vessels in an oven to prevent evaporation and overpressure.
  • Another participant advises against sealing the vessels tightly without a safety valve, highlighting the risks of thermostat failure and potential implosion during a blackout.
  • A suggestion is made to use a double boiler method, which could allow for sealing the glass vessels without concern for overpressure, provided the boiler does not run dry.
  • A participant expresses concerns about the security of the sealing mechanism and the challenges of fitting the necessary equipment in the oven, indicating a preference for avoiding coolers due to space constraints.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to achieve the desired heating without coolers, with multiple competing views on safety and equipment setup remaining unresolved.

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Participants mention various assumptions regarding equipment capabilities, safety measures, and the potential for equipment failure, which remain unaddressed in terms of specific definitions or conditions.

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hi,

I need to expose metallic material in the WATER for a certain period of time (3, 6 and 12 months) at 100 °C (+/- 5 °C) and normal pressure. Is it possible to do that without using coolers?
I was thinking of putting the glass vessels in the oven and closing it with some "special" equipment (please, see the attached file). What do you think, would that be safe and secure so the water does not evaporate and the whole system doesn´t explode because of the overpressure??

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I would not close it tight without a safety valve, you need to take into account possible failure of the thermostat. That is assuming in the first place the vessel you are using is capable of sustaining slight overpressure.

Note that in the case of the blackout you may have quite the opposite problem - implosion instead of explosion.
 
Make a double boiler by immersing the glass vessels in boiling water. You could then go ahead and seal the glass vessels tight without concern for overpressure. Just be sure the boiler doesn't run dry.
 
I think this metal part around the vessel is preety secure (like some kind of valve), but these red plastic things which are holding the top I-don´t-know-what´s-it-cold :smile: could loosen after a while.
I am just searching for the easiest way to set up my experiment and it will, obviously, be using the coolers. grrrrrr... It´s not because I need to use the coolers, but it´s because then the whole equipment doesn´t fit in the oven, and therefore I need to use heating mantles and temperature regulators which I don´t have enough! ..gosh.. :cry:
 

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