Undergrad Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and macroscopic objects

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The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP) is applicable to macroscopic objects, such as a football, despite their composition of numerous particles. The discussion highlights the potential to demonstrate this applicability through statistical methods based on elementary particle behavior or by extending the principle from commutation relations between momentum and position. The de Broglie wavelength can be used to determine the uncertainty of a macroscopic object's center of mass, and the Schrödinger equation remains invariant under linear canonical transformations. Calculating the uncertainty for objects like a grain of sand, with a mass of 0.1 milligrams, provides practical insight into this phenomenon.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP)
  • Familiarity with quantum mechanics and the Schrödinger equation
  • Knowledge of de Broglie wavelength concepts
  • Basic grasp of statistical methods in physics
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  • Research the derivation of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle from commutation relations
  • Explore statistical methods for analyzing quantum behavior in macroscopic systems
  • Learn about linear canonical transformations in quantum mechanics
  • Investigate the implications of de Broglie wavelength on macroscopic objects
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Physicists, quantum mechanics students, and researchers interested in the implications of quantum principles on macroscopic objects.

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Is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP) applicable to macroscopic objects? A football, for instance, is composed of an enormous number of particles. Can the applicability of the HUP to a macroscopic object like a football be demonstrated through statistical methods, starting from the behavior of elementary particles? Are there any references or research that support this approach? Alternatively, should the principle be derived directly from the commutation relations between momentum and position, extended to macroscopic objects while accounting for all interactions between their constituent particles?

I understand that macroscopic behavior is generally not sensitive to quantum fluctuations, but I am curious about the theoretical justification and derivation of the HUP at this scale.
 
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Alternatively, should the principle be derived directly from the commutation relations between momentum and position, extended to macroscopic objects while accounting for all interactions between their constituent particles?
The de Broglie wavelength of a macroscopic solid body gives you the uncertainty of its center of mass. You can check that by transforming the system into center of mass and reduced coordinates. This is a linear canonical transformation of the spatial coordinats, and the Schrödinger equation of non-relativistic QM is invariant under those.
 
wnvl2 said:
Is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP) applicable to macroscopic objects?
Yes, but you will find it interesting to calculate the uncertainty for a reasonable sized macroscopic object (say, a grain of sand that might have a mass of .1 milligrams).
 
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