Helicity (as related to photons and Z-bosons)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of helicity as it relates to bosons, specifically photons and Z-bosons. Participants explore questions regarding the nature of helicity in bosons, the implications of bosons being their own antiparticles, and the differences between photons and Z-bosons in terms of mass and interactions with other particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether bosons have helicity and how this could differentiate them from their antiparticles.
  • There is a suggestion that if bosons have helicity, it could lead to confusion regarding the classification of photons as their own antiparticles.
  • Others propose that the distinction between photons and Z-bosons may primarily arise from the presence of mass in Z-bosons.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of considering how these particles couple to other particles, noting that their interactions are significantly different.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the nature of helicity in bosons and whether it affects their classification as antiparticles. Multiple competing views remain on the implications of mass and coupling in distinguishing between photons and Z-bosons.

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Limitations include unresolved assumptions about helicity and its implications, as well as the dependence on definitions of antiparticles and coupling mechanisms.

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Ahoy maties,


I understand that spin 'direction' relates to helicity, bosons have integral spin (-1, 0, 1, 2, etc) and that photons and Z-bosons are unique in that they are 'their own antiparticles'. With this context, I have 2 question strings (so I don't have to post multiple times) concerning the answer to the following question: Do bosons have helicity?

1) If so, couldn't they be differentiated from their antiparticles? Wouldn't we really have 1 each of a 'left-handed and right-handed' gamma photon after annihilation processes? If so, why the hell do people confusingly say these are their own antiparticles (which could be thought of as true only in the particular case of spin=0)? Isn't that just as obviously wrong (except spin=0) as overlooking the property of charge-anticharge?

2) If not, is a photon different from a Z-boson only because of the presence of mass? Do 2 indistinguishable Z-bosons annihilate into 2 indistinguishable gamma photons?

Thanks,
Gerrit
 
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Since gluons are also 'their own antiparticles' this applies to them too.
 
Actually, forget it. I'm not even sure whether anyone understood my ham-fisted questions, but I found the answers.
 
bockerse said:
Ahoy maties,




2) If not, is a photon different from a Z-boson only because of the presence of mass? Do 2 indistinguishable Z-bosons annihilate into 2 indistinguishable gamma photons?

Thanks,
Gerrit


You have also to consider how they couple to other particles! They couple very differently to quarks, muons, etc!
 

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