(HELP )Compressible vs incompressible flow (QUESTION)

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The discussion revolves around the differences between compressible and incompressible flow, particularly focusing on when various thermodynamic properties such as static temperature, total temperature, total pressure, static enthalpy, and dynamic viscosity differ between the two types of flow. The scope includes theoretical aspects and technical explanations related to fluid dynamics.

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  • One participant suggests that the primary difference between compressible and incompressible flow is the density, noting that compressible flow occurs when the Mach number (M) is greater than 0.3.
  • Another participant states that in compressible flow, the divergence of the velocity field is not zero, leading to more complex equations since density cannot be treated as constant.
  • It is mentioned that for incompressible flow, total pressure is defined as the sum of static pressure and dynamic pressure, while for compressible flow, it is defined as the sum of static pressure and impact pressure.
  • A participant explains that total enthalpy can be expressed as the sum of static enthalpy and kinetic energy, and under certain assumptions, total temperature can be related to static temperature and dynamic temperature.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of compressibility on various equations and properties, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist regarding the definitions and applications of these concepts.

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Some assumptions regarding ideal gases and isentropic flow are mentioned, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in applying these concepts across different flow regimes.

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(HELP PLZ)Compressible vs incompressible flow!(QUESTION)

Ok! I think I know the difference between the two, which is basically the density. My question is actually when is the equation of properties like (Static temperature, Total temperature, Total pressure, Static enthalpy, dynamic viscosity and so on) different between compressible and incompressible flow?

Thanks for the help in advance
 
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The simplest definition of compressible flow is that the density is not constant. However, the true definition is that the divergence of the velocity field is not zero. A flow is typically considered compressible when M>0.3.

Either way, nearly every equation and formula changes if the flow is said to be compressible. All of the equations get more complicated because you can no longer treat density as a constant and so its derivatives are no longer zero.

Hopefully that answered your question. If you still have more questions, I suppose just ask them or rephrase the original question if I didn't provide the information you were looking for.
 


The static temperature is just the thermodynamic temperature, which is just a function of 2 other intensive variables. Same with the static enthalpy and the dynamic viscosity, so nothing changes here.

For incompressible flow, we can say Total Pressure = Static Pressure + Dynamic Pressure
For compressible flow, we can say Total Pressure = Static Pressure + Impact Pressure
We can say that the total pressure equals the stagnation pressure as long as the flow stagnates isentropically (a good assumption unless we have shocks present).

We can always say Total Enthalpy = Static Enthalpy + 0.5*Velocity^2. If we can say dh=c*dT and c is constant (good assumptions for ideal gases), we like to use Total Temperature = Static Temperature + Dynamic Temperature instead.
 


thank you so much for the replay. it was so helpful
 

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