Help Conservation of momentum: contestant running on raft. Tough

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The problem involves the conservation of momentum in a scenario where a woman contestant jumps from a raft to a platform. The context includes the masses of the woman and the raft, their initial states, and the velocities involved during the jump.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum, with attempts to derive the velocity of the contestant relative to the water. Questions arise regarding the correctness of derived equations and the interpretation of variables.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different equations to find the velocity of the contestant relative to the water, while others express uncertainty about their calculations. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the setup and the relationships between the variables involved.

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Participants note discrepancies in their derived equations and outcomes, indicating potential misunderstandings or misapplications of the conservation of momentum principle. The urgency of the homework deadline is also mentioned, adding pressure to resolve the problem.

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Homework Statement



A 62.7-kg woman contestant on a reality television show is at rest at the south end of a horizontal 141-kg raft that is floating in crocodile-infested waters. She and the raft are initially at rest. She needs to jump from the raft to a platform that is several meters off the north end of the raft. She takes a running start. When she reaches the north end of the raft she is running at 4.78 m/s relative to the raft. At that instant, what is her velocity relative to the water?

v = velocity of contestant with respect to the water
v_{r} = velocity of contestant with respect to the raft
V = velocity of raft with respect to the water

m = mass of contestant
M = mass of raft

Homework Equations



P_{I} = P_{f}

V=v-v_{r}

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is my derivation and equation but I'm not getting the right answer! Where did I go wrong?

1. P_{I} = P_{f}

2. 0=MV+mv

We don't know V so I substitute with:

V=v-v_{r}

3. 0=M(v-v_{r}) + mv

Now solve for v (speed of contestant relative to water)

v=\frac{Mv_{r}}{M+m}
 
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Can anybody help? It would be awesome because this is due soon.
 
I came up with:

v=\frac{(M+m)v_{r}}{M+2m}

but it gives me the wrong answer.

Not sure what else to do, I swear that equation is correct. I even derived it and compared it to a similar problem in our book and it was very similar! The only difference is that it is asking for the velocity of the raft w/ respect to the water instead of the contestant w/ respect to the water.
 
This is a lot more simple than it looks. All you have to do is find the velocity of the raft. To do this take the woman's mass multiplied by her velocity (mv) and set it equal to the her mass plus that of the raft times v (m + M)v. So you get mv = (M + m)v. When you put the numbers in you get 62.7kg(4.78m/s) = (62.7 + 141)v

Once you've solved this you get v = 1.47. Since the raft is moving in the opposite direction from the woman v is actually -1.47. To relate this to the water, all you have to do is take the woman's velocity 4.78 m/s and subtract the water's velocity 1.47 m/s. Your answer comes out to 3.31 m/s.
 

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