Question on conservation of momentum

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a scenario where a woman on a raft is attempting to jump to a platform, and the discussion centers around the conservation of momentum and relative velocities. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically momentum and relative motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum but expresses uncertainty about how to incorporate the velocities of the woman and the raft. Some participants suggest using subscripts to clarify relative velocities and propose equations to relate these velocities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. There is an exchange of ideas regarding how to express the velocities and momentum, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of relative motion and the initial conditions of the problem, including the fact that both the woman and the raft start at rest. There is also a focus on ensuring clarity in the notation used for velocities.

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Homework Statement



A 56-kg woman contestant on a reality television show is at rest at the south end of a horizontal 147-kg raft that is floating in crocodile-infested waters. She and the raft are initially at rest. She needs to jump from the raft to a platform that is several meters off the north end of the raft. She takes a running start. When she reaches the north end of the raft she is running at 4.6 m/s relative to the raft. At that instant, what is her velocity relative to the water?

Homework Equations



Psystem = Pwoman + Praft = 0

Pwoman(f) - Pwoman(i) + Praft(f) - Praft(i) = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



I've split up the momentums into their each individual parts. The mass of the woman is 56kg, the raft is 147kg, and this is where I'm stuck. I believe that Pwoman(i) and Praft(i) are 0 because they both are initially at rest. Now I have Pwoman(f) + Praft(f) = 0. I don't know where to plug in her speed (Pwoman or Praft?), and either way, I would get a negative answer. Can someone help me figure out where to go from here?
 
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Hi lilmul123! :smile:

In questions about relative velocities, you really need two subscripts, not one.

Call the woman j, the raft r, and the water w.

[STRIKE]Then Pjw, for example, would be the momentum of the woman relative to the water.

And Pjw = Pjr + Prw.[/STRIKE]

Then Vjw, for example, would be the velocity of the woman relative to the water.

And Vjw = Vjr + Vrw. :wink:
 
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How do I figure out the speed of the raft relative to the water?
 
lilmul123 said:
How do I figure out the speed of the raft relative to the water?

(On second thoughts, my last post was rather confusing when it talked about momentum, so I've edited it :redface:)

The question gives you Vjr.

So find a physics equation relating Vjw and Vrw,

and combine it with the geometry equation Vjw = Vjr + Vrw. :smile:
 

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