Help converting kJ/(kg*degC) to Btu/(lbm*degF)

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The discussion revolves around converting units of specific heat capacity from kJ/(kg·°C) to Btu/(lbm·°F) using dimensional analysis. Participants are tasked with verifying the conversion using given factors and addressing potential errors in their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conversion factors and the relationship between temperature changes in Celsius and Fahrenheit. There is an exploration of how to properly apply the conversion factor for temperature changes.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified potential errors in the original conversion attempt and are exploring the correct application of temperature change factors. Guidance has been provided on how to rigorously show the relationship between temperature changes in different units.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can receive. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made regarding temperature conversion factors.

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Homework Statement


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Show that 1 kJ/(kg⋅°C) = 0.238846 Btu/(lbm⋅°F) using dimensional analysis and the given conversion factors:

1 Btu = 1.055056 kJ
1 kg = 2.2046226 lbm
T(°F)=1.8⋅T(°C)+32

Homework Equations


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1 Btu / 1.055056 kJ =1
1 kg / 2.2046226 lbm = 1
1.8⋅Δ°C / Δ°F=1

The Attempt at a Solution



(1 kJ/(kg°C)) ⋅(1 Btu / 1.055056 kJ) ⋅ (1 kg / 2.2046226 lbm) ⋅ (1.8⋅Δ°C / Δ°F) ≈ 0.842661 Btu/(lbm⋅°F)

I have no idea how this is wrong but it is according any conversion table I've seen.

Please help, I need to know what I'm doing wrong.

Thank you
 
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Hello.

Check the part where you're converting the temperatures.
 
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TSny said:
Hello.

Check the part where you're converting the temperatures.

Edit: I think I know what I'm doing wrong but still need help, ready below this post.

How is it wrong ? I've been staring at it for hours. The change is 1.8 or 9/5 ..

100 C = 212 F
0 C = 32 F
The slope is 9/5 or 1.8 with a y intercept of 32. In the analysis wouldn't this be multiplying by a factor of 1.8 since I'm going from inverse C to Inverse F.. I may be confusing myself with the methodology here idk
 
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Sorry for double post

So I think I understand what's wrong

The "change in F" and "change in C" is what I'm comparing

It makes sense that a change of 1.8 F only results in a change in 1 C so I can change my conversion factor... but how do I show this logic rigorously or in math terms? In other words.. how do I show more work stating from the T(F) = 9/5 T(C) + 32 results in 1.8 Δ°F = 1 Δ°C
 
AnotherParadox said:
1.8 Δ°F = 1 Δ°C
This is correct. But this is not what you used in your conversion in the first post.
 
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TSny said:
This is correct. But this is not what you used in your conversion in the first post.
Right. Once I replace the conversion factor the answer is correct.

However I'm still unsure how to take the information
T(F) = 9/5 T(C) + 32
and conclude
1.8 Δ°F = 1 Δ°C

in a way other than just mental reasoning ... how do I apply math notation to this to show something rigorous? Perhaps I'm concerned out of illusion .
 
Consider an arbitrary initial temperature and an arbitrary final temperature. So,

Tfinal(F) = 9/5 Tfinal(C) + 32

Tinitial(F) = 9/5 Tinitial(C) + 32

Subtract the two equations.
 
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TSny said:
Consider an arbitrary initial temperature and an arbitrary final temperature. So,

Tfinal(F) = 9/5 Tfinal(C) + 32

Tinitial(F) = 9/5 Tinitial(C) + 32

Subtract the two equations.
I'm not sure I follow. Won't the 9/5 stay with the T(C) ?
 
AnotherParadox said:
I'm not sure I follow. Won't the 9/5 stay with the T(C) ?
Yes. So you will get ΔT(F) = 9/5 ΔT(C). Now interpret this.

Suppose you consider the case where the temperature change is 1 Co. The interpretation of the equation is that it tells us that this temperature change of 1 Co will be a change on the Fahrenheit scale of 9/5 Fahrenheit degrees.

The confusion might be coming from the fact that the 9/5 has hidden units. The 9/5 has units of Fo/Co. So, when we consider a temperature change of 1 Co, we have

ΔT(F) = (9/5 Fo/Co) ⋅ (1Co) = 9/5 Fo.

So, 1 Co is equivalent to 9/5 Fo.
 
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The suppressed units is what got me. Makes perfect sense now
 

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