Help creating a dif. eq. for a real life model?

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The discussion revolves around deriving a differential equation to model the growth of a retirement account based on a woman's salary, which increases exponentially. The context includes the continuous deposit of a percentage of her salary and the accumulation of interest over time. Participants explore the mathematical formulation of this scenario, including the effects of salary growth and interest rates.

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  • One participant presents the salary function S(t) and suggests that the retirement account A(t) increases due to both salary deposits and interest accumulation.
  • Another participant questions the omission of the starting salary in the differential equation and seeks clarification on how the interest rate is incorporated into the model.
  • There is a discussion about the initial salary being accounted for in the salary function S(t), with a suggestion to express it as 30000e^{t/20} instead of 30e^{t/20}.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the appropriateness of using a model derived from fluid dynamics (concentration in a tank) for this financial scenario.
  • One participant shares personal experiences regarding salary expectations for engineers, indicating a broader context of economic discussion.
  • Another participant seeks resources to better understand the concept of continuous compounding of interest.

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There is no consensus on the correct formulation of the differential equation, as participants raise questions and propose different interpretations of the initial conditions and mathematical expressions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to model the retirement account growth.

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Participants express varying levels of familiarity with differential equations and continuous compounding, indicating a range of assumptions and potential gaps in understanding that may affect the discussion.

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Help creating a dif. eq. for a real life model.help?

A 30 year old woman accepts an engeineeering position with a starting salary of $30000 per year. Her salary S(t) increases exponentially, with [tex]S(t)=30e^{\frac{t}{20}[/tex] thousand dollars after t years. Meanwhile, 12% of her salary is deposited continuously in a retirement account, which accumulates interest at a continuous annual rate of 6%.
a) Estimate dA in terms of dt to derive the differential equation satisfied by the amount A(t) in her retirement account after t years.

Well, i am not any good at differential equations, but i am just trying to give a shot on my own, although i currently am in calculus I, so i am facing some difficulties from time to time absorbing these kind of problems, especially when they are wording ones that require us to derive a differential equation to describe the situation.

I have tried many things on this problem, first i thought that the differential equation derived for measuring the concentration on a tank- as one pipe brings water in while the other pipes water out of tank- would work but i think it does not quite fit in this situation.

so any hints on how to begin to derive a diff. eq for describing this situation??

thnx in advance
 
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A 30 year old woman accepts an engeineeering position with a starting salary of $30000 per year. Her salary S(t) increases exponentially, with [tex]S(t)=30e^{\frac{t}{20}[/tex] thousand dollars after t years. Meanwhile, 12% of her salary is deposited continuously in a retirement account, which accumulates interest at a continuous annual rate of 6%.
a) Estimate dA in terms of dt to derive the differential equation satisfied by the amount A(t) in her retirement account after t years.
A(t) increases in two ways:
1) She deposits 12% of her salary: 0.12 S= 0.12(30 et/20[/itex]= 3.6et/20.
2) interest, compounded continuously at 6% is added: A(t)e0.06t.
Those are the two ways in which the account changes and the rate of change is dA/dt.
Looks to me like dA/dt= e0.06tA(t)+ 3.6 et/20.

Well, i am not any good at differential equations, but i am just trying to give a shot on my own, although i currently am in calculus I, so i am facing some difficulties from time to time absorbing these kind of problems, especially when they are wording ones that require us to derive a differential equation to describe the situation.

I have tried many things on this problem, first i thought that the differential equation derived for measuring the concentration on a tank- as one pipe brings water in while the other pipes water out of tank- would work but i think it does not quite fit in this situation.

so any hints on how to begin to derive a diff. eq for describing this situation??

thnx in advance
 
Shouldn't we take into consideration somewhere her starting salary, maybe you incorporated it somewhere but i just cannot se where? If not why would it be ok, even if we do not take it into consideration?
Also how did you derive A(t)e^0.06t ? In other words, how did you incorporate the 6% interest here?
 
sutupidmath said:
A 30 year old woman accepts an engeineeering position with a starting salary of $30000 per year.

Geeze, I certainly hope not! That's an obscenely low salary for any 30-year-old, especially an engineer!
 
sutupidmath said:
Shouldn't we take into consideration somewhere her starting salary, maybe you incorporated it somewhere but i just cannot se where? If not why would it be ok, even if we do not take it into consideration?
Also how did you derive A(t)e^0.06t ? In other words, how did you incorporate the 6% interest here?

The initial salary is already taken into account in the S(t)= 30et/20 although we should write it as 30000et/20.

The 6% is the 0.06 in the exponential. Amount A, compounded continuously, at interest rate r, for t years yields Aert.
 
Ben Niehoff said:
Geeze, I certainly hope not! That's an obscenely low salary for any 30-year-old, especially an engineer!

First college teaching job I got, after I got my Ph.D, paid $12000 a year. And that was more than my father had ever earned in one year in his life.
 
Yeah, but what decade was that?

Hell, even my first internship was $18/hr (though I realize I'm a bit lucky there). :P
 
HallsofIvy said:
The 6% is the 0.06 in the exponential. Amount A, compounded continuously, at interest rate r, for t years yields Aert.

Where can i find some things to read on my own about this interest rate, because i do not actually know why amount A, compounded continuously, at interest rate r, for t years yeilds Aert??
 
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Well, thank you HallsofIvy, i really appreciate it. I will come back from time to time with these kind of problems, until i get used to them.

Thnx once more!
 

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