Help identifying a mathy thing

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying a mathematical drawing tool that produces intricate, flower-like graphs resembling the paths of electrons in atoms. Participants explore various names and concepts related to these types of graphs and the devices used to create them.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes seeing a friend create flower-like graphs and seeks to identify the device used.
  • Some participants suggest names such as "Flower of life" and "Circles of Apollonius" as potential identifiers for the drawings.
  • Another participant proposes the "rhodonea curve" as a possible match for the drawings.
  • A participant questions whether the rhodonea curve can be drawn using gears and gear-holes, suggesting it might be a toy from a stationery shop.
  • One participant speculates that the device could be a sophisticated version of a "ruler and compass" geometric construction.
  • Another participant identifies the device as a "Spirograph," sharing a personal anecdote about its introduction in the United States and its popularity among children.
  • One participant recalls making similar designs with just a pencil compass and paper, contrasting it with the more complex device discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the names and types of devices used to create the flower-like graphs, with no consensus reached on a single identifier.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the complexity and nature of the device remain unresolved, and there is uncertainty about the exact terminology used in different regions.

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Recently, I saw my friend drawing cool, flower like graphs that looks like the path of electrons in atoms and he drew it with device with gears and holes with gears. What's that called?
 
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Flower of life?

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Circles of Apollonius?

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hilbert2 said:
Then it could be the rhodonea curve: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_(mathematics)
That looks quite like what he drew,but can that be drawn by gears(the wheels with teeth on them) and gear-holes?

I believe it is some sort of toy since he said he get it from a stationery shop. And that looked way to complicated to be a toy.
 
Maybe it's some kind of a more sophisticated version of a "ruler and compass" geometric construction.
 
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I found the device! Still don’t know the English name though.
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Young physicist said:
... Still don’t know the English name though.

I've only ever heard them called Spirographs.
First introduced here in the states in 1966, when I was about 7 years old.
I'm pretty sure my siblings and I nearly bankrupted our parents in paper & colored pen costs.
 
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OmCheeto said:
I've only ever heard them called Spirographs.
First introduced here in the states in 1966, when I was about 7 years old.
I'm pretty sure my siblings and I nearly bankrupted our parents in paper & colored pen costs.
Yeah,the exact same thing! Thanks @OmCheeto and @hilbert2!
 

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