Help Me Find Mass-Energy Equivalence Formula!

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The discussion revolves around deriving the mass-energy equivalence formula, specifically the relationship involving energy (E), momentum (p), and mass (m) in the context of relativistic physics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to manipulate the mass-energy equivalence formula and the momentum formula to derive a specific relationship. There are questions about how to transition from one form of the equation to another, particularly regarding the use of the momentum formula.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different approaches to the problem. Some suggest using the energy formula multiple times, while others emphasize the necessity of incorporating the momentum formula. There is a lack of explicit consensus on the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of algebraic manipulation and the definitions of relativistic variables, such as the Lorentz factor (γ) and its relationship to momentum and velocity.

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Simple algebra to find the strict mass–energy equivalence formula, and I can't do it!

find ((m^2)*(c^4)=(E^2)-(p^2*c^2)) from (E=m*c^2*y) (p=m*y*v)
(y=1/(1-(v^2/c^2))^(1/2))


Yeh i can find the m^2c^4 parts and the E^2 obvioulsy. but then i am stuck with E^2(v^2/c^2) when instead i want (p^2c^2). If anyone could help that would be great!
 
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cobi18 said:
Yeh i can find the m^2c^4 parts and the E^2 obvioulsy. but then i am stuck with E^2(v^2/c^2) when instead i want (p^2c^2).
Use E=m*c^2*y again.
 


Doc Al said:
Use E=m*c^2*y again.

That will not solve anything... The formula for the momentum has to be used. I recommend you to start with "p = γmv" and find "v" as a function of "p", then find "γ" as a function of "p" and finaly replace "γ" in "E=γmc2" with what you have found.
 


cosmic dust said:
That will not solve anything...
Sure it will. It's the first step:
-step 1: use the formula for E as I described
The formula for the momentum has to be used.
Of course it does. That's the second step:
-step 2: then rewrite the results in terms of p
 


OK, I thought you had say to use the formula for E twice, sorry...
 

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