Help me for calculate a Hydraulic force

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The discussion revolves around calculating the hydraulic force acting on a plate supported by hydraulic cylinders, specifically focusing on the information needed to determine this force, including the diameter of the cylinders and the pressure applied.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the necessary values to calculate the force acting on the plate, given only the diameter of the hydraulic cylinder.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for clarity on the application and suggests that if the load is evenly distributed, each cylinder would carry a quarter of the total load.
  • A later reply mentions that knowing whether the hydraulic ram is pushing or pulling is crucial for determining the force, as it affects the pressure on the bore side of the ram.
  • One participant suggests that if the hydraulic pressure is known, the force can be calculated by multiplying the pressure by the cross-sectional area of the hydraulic cylinder.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the information needed for the calculation, and there is no consensus on the specifics of the setup or the necessary parameters for an accurate calculation.

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Limitations include the lack of details about the load distribution, the specific application of the hydraulic system, and the absence of information regarding the hydraulic pressure.

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If I know only the diameter of the hydraulic cylinder that is 54 cm (4 cylinder, each cornner), how can i know the foce that act on the plate work. Do i need to know more any value ?
sorry for poor english.
 
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really need help My boss want to know How much force acting on the plate. (Hot Press Lamination)
 
Hello,

I take it you want to know the force carried by each hydraulic cylinder?

You have provided very little information to enable adequate interpretation of your problem. I do not know what the actual application is. However:

If for example you have a rectangular plate which uses four cylinders (one in each corner) and you know the load that is to be carried by the plate, then the problem is very simple, provided that the load evenly distributed on the plate then each cylinder will carry 1/4 of the total load applied to the plate. It's simply like a table with 4 legs; the legs will carry 1/4 of the load - provided the load is evenly distributed.

To ensure that that hydraulic rams can withstand such a loading, you will need to know if the if the ram is pushing or pulling, or both at separate times in the operation of the machine.

If for example the ram is extending, then the pressure will be on bore side of the ram. Given this, you can easilly detertmine the bore diamter of the ram (load carrying surface area). A ram will always be rated as to its working and maximum pressures. Knowing the force applied to the ram and the surface area of the bore, you can work out the pressure in the ram - Pressure = Force/Area.

This is a very basic problem that i have described, because i do not know the actual extent of your set up and what the machine actually consists of.

This should get you going though.

I would suggest that in future you provide a full explanation of your problem, and make an attempt at the solution. If you are an mechanical engineer, then calculating what i have just described should be second nature to you?!
 
If you know the hydraulic pressure in kg/sq.cm or N/sq.cm, then you can calculate the force by multiplying this pressure to inside c/s area of hydraulic cylinder.

Tom
 
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