Help Me Understand Latex Derivatives: Struggling With Calculus After 2 Years

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the process of implicit differentiation in the context of a differential equation (DE) and verifying the correctness of a proposed solution. Participants express challenges with calculus concepts, particularly derivatives, after a gap in study.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a differential equation and expresses confusion about the implicit differentiation process leading to the derivative y1 = C1/2y.
  • Another participant questions the notation used in the equation, suggesting that a simpler representation might be more appropriate.
  • A participant clarifies that their notation was intended to indicate y' (y prime) but acknowledges the textbook's representation.
  • One participant states they calculated the derivative of y2 = C1(X + (1/4)C1) as dy/dx = C1/2y but struggles to verify this by substituting back into the original equation.
  • Another participant reiterates their difficulty in obtaining equality when substituting the derivative and the solution back into the DE.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express individual challenges and uncertainties regarding the differentiation process and verification steps, with no consensus on the resolution of these issues.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention a lack of recent practice with calculus concepts, which may affect their understanding and ability to verify solutions. There are also indications of potential notation confusion that could impact interpretation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students returning to calculus after a break, particularly those grappling with implicit differentiation and verification of solutions in differential equations.

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Sorry it's not the best Latex, I hope that you can still help me grasp this.

Code:
y=2xy[SUP]1[/SUP]+y(y[SUP]1[/SUP])[SUP]2[/SUP]; y[SUP]2[/SUP]=C[SUB]1[/SUB](x+1/4C[SUB]1[/SUB])

So, the solution says to implicitly differentiate and gives
Code:
y[SUP]1[/SUP]=C[SUB]1[/SUB]/2y

So, how did they get the derivative to be this? This is the first chapter in my DE class and I'm rusty with my integrals and derivatives, been about 2 years since my calc classes.

Thanks for any help...
 
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First, it that really what they have? Is there a reason for writing "y(y^2)^2 rather than just y^5?
 
In my latex from my previous post it is actually supposed to be y prime where y is raised to the first power. But yes, this is how it was in the textbook...

Thanks for your reply...
 
Okay, I figured the derivative of
Code:
y[SUP]2[/SUP]=C[SUB]1[/SUB](X+(1/4)C[SUB]1[/SUB])
to be
Code:
 dy/dx=C[SUB]1[/SUB]/2y

But, now I can't verify the solution by plugging the derivative back into the equation, I can't get both sides equal to each other, which is what the problem is asking for. A differential equation with a solution was given; I'm supposed to find the derivative of the solution and plug it back into the differential equation to prove that the solution is actually a correct answer.

Any help? I tried plugging the derivative back into the DE and I've tried solving the solution for y and plugging that and the derivative back into the original DE but I've had no luck setting each other equal to the other. This is the same thing as solving a DE and checking your work but I can't get them to equal each other.

Thanks for any help or recommendations...
 
Please, can you guys offer me any guidance? After I find the derivative and plug it into the original DE and I solve the solution for y and plug it into the original DE I'm not getting the solution to be correct.
 

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