Help Needed: Solving Train Acceleration Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two trains, A and B, with different accelerations and departure times. The original poster is trying to determine the acceleration of train B so that both trains meet at the same velocity without colliding, given the known acceleration of train A and the distance between points A and B.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial velocities and acceleration of both trains, with the original poster noting the challenge of having two unknowns and only one equation. There are suggestions to set up equations for both trains' positions and velocities, with emphasis on using different symbols to avoid confusion.

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Some participants have provided guidance on setting up equations for the positions of both trains, while others express confusion about how to proceed with the problem. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations of the problem being explored.

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There is a noted lack of information regarding the initial conditions for train B, and participants are questioning how to define the spatial and temporal origins for their equations. The original poster has expressed frustration over the complexity of the problem and the number of unknowns involved.

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hello

I'm having some trouble with the following problem:

train B leaves point A at 8am to point B located 30 km straight a head.
the train has constant acceleration a=0.05 m/sec^2

now train B leaves point B 5 minutes before train A gets there,what is the acceleration of train B in order for the trains to meet with the same velocity?
(i.e will not collide)

I computed the speed of train A 5 min before it arrived to point B.
I know it's acceleration,but it seems I don't have enough information to solve the problem,I have 2 unknowns: train B's acceleration and the location they meet...but I have only one equation.

can someone please help me.
 
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what is the initial velocity of A. What is its acceleration?
what would be its velocity at some t while it traveling along the track?
Write an equation using the above knowns and unknowns



Do the smae thing for B. BUT DONT USE THE SAME SYMBOLS or you will get confused. (use differetn subscripts). Keep in mind the time it took for train B to reach a velocity is different for the time it took train A to reach that velocity.

Do that first
 
this is what I have.

for train A,i'll set the initial velocity as the velocity 5 min before it gets point B,it's 39 m/s

so: Va = 39 + 0.05t

for train B,I assume it starts from rest so:

Vb = at

I can equate them,but as I said before,I only have one equation and 2 unknowns.

I really can't figure this out,I spent like an hour on this problem,but couldn't come up with anything
 
thats good

now consider that distance in which they may meet

if A convered a distance d, then what distance has B covered in the same amount of time??
 
I'm not following you.
I can't understand how this helps me,with solving the equation.

but the distance is speed*time.

or should I use:
x = x0 + v0t + 0.5at^2
?

thanks for your help
 
It is certainly best to set up the similar equations for the POSITIONS, and use those to solve the problem
 
but even with the positions,I get 2 unknowns.

I don't know where they meet,and I don't know the acceleration of train B.
 
First, you should write down the position functions for each train:
x_{A}(t)=x_{A,0}+v_{A,0}t+\frac{a_{A}t^{2}}{2}
x_{B}(t)=x_{B,0}+v_{B,0}t+\frac{a_{B}t^{2}}{2}

where:
x_{A,0}=x_{A}(0), x_{B,0}=x_{B}(0), v_{A,0}=v_{A}(0), v_{B,0}=v_{B}(0)
Do you agree with this?

Now, you need to define what your spatial and temporal origin should be, before trying to determine the various quantities involved.
 

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