Help; physics problem on a chemistry test

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The original poster seeks assistance with a chemistry problem regarding quantum numbers, specifically the azimuthal quantum number, magnetic quantum number, and spin number for a principal quantum number of 3. They express confusion about the terminology and how to approach the problem.

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  • Some participants provide definitions and explanations of the quantum numbers involved, while others suggest resources for further research. There is a discussion about the classification of the problem as chemistry or physics.

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Participants have offered explanations of the quantum numbers and their significance, although the original poster remains uncertain about how to apply this information to the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take.

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The original poster indicates a lack of familiarity with the terms and concepts, which may hinder their understanding. Additionally, there is a mention of the Pauli Exclusion principle as a necessary concept for determining the spin number.

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So my teacher gave us a take home CHEMISTRY test and I see this problem on it:

What are the azimuthal quantum number (1), magnetic quantum number (m1 ;subscript 1) and spin number for the principle number quantum (n) 3?

I have not a clue how to even start this. I've never even heard of these terms.

I'd really like to tell you guys how I would start this, but I really have no clue.
 
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May I suggest www.google.com
or even better, your chem text.

BTW, that's chemistry (well it can be considered chemistry or physics, I suppose?).
 
Ok...I think this is an explanation

Principle quantum number defines the amount of energy basically gives a first clue of how much energy an electron has. (this entity can take on any integer). Geometrically, this represents the size of an electron shell.

Azimuthal quantum number defines how much angular momentum (amount of momentum around an axis) that an electron has and takes on any value above zero and between n-1 (In this case n=3, therefore, azimuthal, or orbital, quantum number takes on 0,1, and 2). Geometrically, this is the shape of the electron cloud (such as the dumbbell)

Magnetic quantum number is another number related to azimuthal that defines the direction of an electron's angular momentum. This takes all the values between lxl [absolute values of x] of the azimuthal number. (for example, l [azimuthal number] = 2, then the magnetic quantum number is -2, -1, 0, 1, 2). Geometrically, this is the specific area of which the electron clouds are around the atom.

Finally, spin quantum number reflects electron spin (an intrinsic property where an electron "spins" around it's axis). This value can only take on 1/2 or -1/2.

So, this is an explanation for what quantum numbers actually are...to figure out what the numbers are use the laws I gave. So...n=3 and l=1 means that the magnetic number can be -1,0, or 1. For spin number, one needs to know the Pauli Exclusion principle, google this and hopefully my discussion will make more sense (this knowledge is needed to find the spin).

Hopefully this will help you and answer this chemistry question :)
 
Yes, because that is boring physics it is, by definition, known as chemistry.
 
Mindscrape said:
Yes, because that is boring physics it is, by definition, known as chemistry.

:smile: haha that's a little out of line don't u think ? :smile:
 
I think quantum chem is interesting actually...
 
Thanks guys! Your help worked for me.
 

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