Help solving a System of Linear Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving a nonlinear system of equations involving coefficients represented by a vector \( b \). The equation must hold for all values of \( u \) and \( v \) within a specified interval, and it arises from the analysis of plane waves incident on an array of sensors. Participants explore the implications of the equation and seek a rigorous argument for the proposed solution form of the coefficients.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the only solution is for all \( b_m = 0 \) except for one coefficient \( b_0 \) with unity modulus, suggesting a physical interpretation related to sensor activation.
  • Another participant points out that the problem is nonlinear in \( \mathbf{b} \), questioning the applicability of certain mathematical techniques like the FFT.
  • A later reply acknowledges the nonlinear nature of the equation and discusses an earlier linear form, raising concerns about the arbitrary constants involved.
  • One participant suggests that the linear form can be approached as a general problem of the type \( A x = b \), recommending numerical techniques depending on the size of \( N \).
  • Another participant challenges the feasibility of numerical techniques when the matrix \( A \) is a function and \( b \) is unspecified, emphasizing the need for a general proof of the proposed solution form.
  • There is a request for a demonstration or proof that the solution must take the form \( b = [1, 0, 0, \ldots, 0] \), while expressing confusion over potential counterexamples given the arbitrary nature of \( \phi \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the solution, with some supporting the proposed form of \( b \) while others highlight the complexities and potential counterexamples. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the general proof of the solution form.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the nonlinear characteristics of the equation and the implications of arbitrary constants, which complicate the search for a definitive solution. The discussion reflects various mathematical approaches and their limitations in addressing the problem.

marcusl
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I have the following equation to solve for the coefficients b:
\sum\limits_{m,n=0}^N b_m b_n^* (x_{mn}+y_{mn}) e^{ ik (ux_{mn} + vy_{mn}) } = 0
which must be satisfied for all u and v in the interval [-1,1]. Here k is a constant, b is a vector of length N with unit norm
||b||^2=1,
and x and y are vectors of constants with
x_{mn}=x_m-x_n \text{ and } y_{mn}=y_m-y_n.
This equation arises in an analysis of plane waves incident on an array of sensors; the question (not homework) is to find weights on the various sensors such that the weighted element voltages sum to create an omni-directional sensitivity power pattern. I am happy to provide the derivation of how the physical system leads to this equation if it would be helpful.

Arguing from physical intuition, the sole solution appears to me that all b_m=0 except for one (call it b_0, it doesn't matter which we choose) that has unity modulus, b_0=e^{i\phi}. This works because x_{00}=y_{00}=0 and is equivalent physically to turning M-1 sensors off and receiving with just a single active sensor. Choosing the arbitray constant as \phi=0 results in
\mathbf{b}\rm=\array{[1&0&&0&...&0]}^T
where, again, the indexing is arbitrary so we can assign the active element to any element in the array.

Can anyone suggest a more rigorous argument?
 
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Your problem isn't linear in ##\mathbf{b}##.

Things that come to mind are inverting the FFT?
 
I see issues with an FFT. First, x and y don't ncessarily have regular spacing, so this expression is not a DFT. We could take a DFT of both sides, but I don't think that simplifies anything.

As for the title of my post--Oops, obviously the equation is nonlinear. I had started with an earlier version of the problem involving the electric field (rather than power) pattern
\sum\limits_{n=0}^{N-1} b_n e^{ -ik (ux_n + vy_n) } = \alpha e^{i\phi(u,v)}
then failed to notice that the title needed to change. Perhaps this linear form is easier to deal with, but it has a constant \alpha and a function \phi(u,v) that are arbitrary, so I wasn't sure what to do with it.

EDIT: corrected upper limit
 
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Well, the linear form is a general problem of the ##A x = b## type where ##x_n = b_n## and ##b = \alpha e^{i\phi(u,v)}## discretely sampled. You could try one of many approaches to linear systems LU or QR or singular value decomposition. Depends of the size of ##N##. How badly do you want a solution?
 
Paul, these are numerical techniques that won't work when your A is a function and b is unspecified. I'm looking for a general demonstration or proof that the solution is of the form b=[1 0 0 ... 0].
 
marcusl said:
I'm looking for a general demonstration or proof that the solution is of the form b=[1 0 0 ... 0].
I'm confused. Aren't there many counter examples given ##\phi## is arbitrary? Proof, assume a solution not of this form. Compute the corresponding ##\phi##?
 

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