Help test tmrw elastic collision and conservation of momentum problem?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving elastic collisions and the conservation of momentum, specifically focusing on two blocks with different masses and initial velocities. Block 1 moves at 10 m/s and Block 2, which has twice the mass of Block 1, moves at 5 m/s.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the application of conservation of momentum and elastic collision formulas. Questions arise regarding the reasoning behind multiplying velocities by mass and the cancellation of mass terms in the equations.

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Some participants provide insights into the mass relationship between the blocks and clarify why certain terms can be simplified. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to solving the problem, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating the implications of mass and velocity in the context of elastic collisions, with some uncertainty about the application of formulas and the assumptions involved in the problem setup.

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Block 1 moves with speed of 10m/s to right. It hits block 2 which has twice the mass of block 1 and speed of 5m/s to right. compute the magnitude and direction of block 1 for a perfectly elastic collision.

solution:

u1 = 10m/s
u2 = 5m/s

m1v1 + m2v2 = m1u1 + m2u2 ---->
v1 + 2v2 = u1 + 2u2
... = 10 + 2(5) = 20

(1) v1 + 2v2 = 20

why did u2 and v2 get multiplied by two and why did the m cross out?
 
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I not certain but I think I would go about solving it like this;

The formula you want to use is v'A = ((mA-mB)/(mA + mB))vA

And look at the frame set so that the total velocity of block 1 is actual 10 m/s - 5 m/s so the sped of block one would be 5 m/s.

No guarantee though
 
nchin said:
Block 1 moves with speed of 10m/s to right. It hits block 2 which has twice the mass of block 1 and speed of 5m/s to right. compute the magnitude and direction of block 1 for a perfectly elastic collision.

solution:

u1 = 10m/s
u2 = 5m/s

m1v1 + m2v2 = m1u1 + m2u2 ---->
v1 + 2v2 = u1 + 2u2
... = 10 + 2(5) = 20

(1) v1 + 2v2 = 20

why did u2 and v2 get multiplied by two and why did the m cross out?

The second block has twice as much as the first one. So you can write for the mass of the first block "m" and "2m" for the mass of the second one. As all terms in the equation have the common factor m you can cross it out.

ehild
 
ehild said:
The second block has twice as much as the first one. So you can write for the mass of the first block "m" and "2m" for the mass of the second one. As all terms in the equation have the common factor m you can cross it out.

ehild

thanks!
 

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