Help with Allegro-Altium PCB conversion

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The discussion centers on the challenges of converting an Allegro .brd file to an Altium-compatible format. Users highlight that Altium requires Allegro to be installed for direct import, which is not available to them. The Orcad Lite tool, specifically the "extracta.exe" file, is mentioned as a potential solution for conversion. Additionally, users emphasize the importance of correctly assigning layers during the import process to avoid issues with net extraction.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of PCB design software, specifically Altium Designer and Cadence Allegro.
  • Familiarity with file formats such as .brd, Gerber, and ODB++ used in PCB design.
  • Knowledge of the Orcad Lite tool and its capabilities for file conversion.
  • Experience with layer management in PCB design software to ensure proper net extraction.
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  • Research the capabilities of Orcad Lite and how to utilize "extracta.exe" for file conversion.
  • Learn about the process of reverse engineering PCBs using Altium's CAM tool.
  • Investigate the use of Gerber and ODB++ formats for PCB design and their compatibility with Altium.
  • Explore best practices for managing layer assignments in Altium to facilitate successful net extraction.
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PCB designers, electrical engineers, and anyone involved in converting or reverse engineering PCB designs between Allegro and Altium platforms.

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I have an Allegro .brd file as design reference, but I need something Altium-compatible instead
I have an Allegro .brd file as design reference, but I need something Altium-compatible instead. Altium can import .brd only in case there is Allegro installed on the same PC, what I don't have.

Is there anybody who can help me with this?
 
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Thanks, I'll check.
Usually this kind of 'viewer' does not allow conversion or save, though...
 
Thanks.

Tried it both way, and Altium likely finds the required file since the import starts, but then Altium throws an error.

I'll try to get a PC with a clean install or with a different version...
 
I've reverse engineered boards from the CAM tool that's built into Altium. Do you have Gerber or ODB++ for it? I cannot remember if it works with .brd

I know it has a warning for being outdated, but I also know I have done this on later version of Altium than it has claimed. The images are outdated, but the procedures are the same: https://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/CAM+Editor+Reverse+Engineering+PCBs

Something that stops a lot of people while doing it is they forget to assign all the layers ie. Top Layer, Bottom layer, Internal Layer... default from Import is Temporary and when you try to extract nets for it... you'll see it load, but nothing seems to happens.
 
Joshy said:
I've reverse engineered boards from the CAM tool that's built into Altium. Do you have Gerber or ODB++ for it? I cannot remember if it works with .brd
It does not work, but actually the problem is not like that (not about reverse engineering). The 'thing' is a well documented reference design, so I have the item in my hands, the complete BOM, the schematics and even a screenshot ( :doh: ) about the PCB design (embedded in a protected PDF document, so I could make a screenshot only :doh::doh:).
The main problem is, that we have some persistent and annoying problems with high voltage clearance design rules in the Altium version we have, so I just do not trust it. I would prefer to import an existing design instead of re-doing it manually.
Seems like it was a futile attempt. This software just hates me😝
 
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If you could get Gerber or ODB++ then you could reverse engineer it into an editable Altium file and make the changes you want; furthermore if you can export ipc nets then you won’t have funky default net names.
 

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