Help with calculus sequence at OSU

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The discussion revolves around the calculus sequence options available to a transfer student at Ohio State University (OSU), particularly regarding the choice between an honors course using Spivak's Calculus textbook and a regular calculus sequence. Participants explore the implications of starting the sequence in winter versus fall, the transition to a semester system, and the student's concerns about preparedness and financial considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their preparedness for calculus after transferring and questions whether to wait for the honors course or take the regular sequence in the meantime.
  • Another participant suggests considering course 547, which may be equivalent to the regular calculus sequence but intended for upperclassmen.
  • Some participants note the transition to semesters at OSU and suggest it may complicate course planning.
  • There is a suggestion that taking the honors course could be beneficial for the student's academic goals, despite the potential delay in starting the sequence.
  • One participant shares that friends have indicated the transition to semesters might be challenging, advising caution in course selection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best course of action for the student, with some advocating for the honors course and others suggesting it may be wise to wait or consider alternative courses. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal path forward.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes uncertainties about course equivalencies and the impact of the semester transition on the student's academic timeline.

Who May Find This Useful

Transfer students considering math courses at OSU, particularly those interested in honors programs or facing similar transitions to semester systems.

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Hello everyone,

I will be attending OSU starting in the winter as a transfer student. I have been looking to do honors math there and just maybe double major in computer science if possible. I will have already taken calculus I + II at a four year institute which I myself might say is comparable to a community college. (Things happened in high school but I finally got my life back together.) I feel my understanding of calculus might not be as strong as those who started their college career at OSU.

The problem I have is that the calculus sequence I want to take called Elementary Analysis which is taught with Micheal Spivak's Calculus textbook (which many have recommended on here from what I have seen) begins in the fall. In other words, if I decide to take it, I won't be able to start on my calculus sequence until after two quarters at OSU.

I have started studying from the textbook myself and I really really really enjoy it but I would really enjoy that much more going through it with a class and a professor. The regular calculus sequence is taught with Stewart's Calculus textbook which I used in high school and found to be a lot less challenging than I was comfortable with.

Would it be a smart idea to wait two semesters before starting my calculus sequence? Should I just sit in for the regular calculus sequence until the fall and then take it? Do you think maybe I should just stick with the easier one and not take it at all?

I really want to take it but I don't want to extend my stay at OSU due to that fact that I am attending as an out of state student and my pockets are not deep enough to accommodate a whole extra year at OSU. What do you think? Can I do it? (Sorry for all the rambling.)
 
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Are you talking about Ohio state university or Oklahoma state university?
 
I'm not sure how easy it will be for you to do this, but you might want to try taking 547, which is offered in the winter, and the courses that follow. I'm pretty sure that it's equivalent to the 191 sequence, except intended for upperclassman rather than freshman. Also, OSU is switching to semesters in fall 2012 so you should probably take that into consideration.
 
SpaceDomain said:
Are you talking about Ohio state university or Oklahoma state university?

I meant Ohio State University. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

shravas said:
I'm not sure how easy it will be for you to do this, but you might want to try taking 547, which is offered in the winter, and the courses that follow. I'm pretty sure that it's equivalent to the 191 sequence, except intended for upperclassman rather than freshman. Also, OSU is switching to semesters in fall 2012 so you should probably take that into consideration.

The main reason I would like to take 191 is because it is taught with Spivak's calculus textbook which I find very interesting but just a bit too intense. I would like to think that I can do it myself but in all honesty, it'll probably take me three times as long as it would take me if I did it with a professor.

Thanks for letting me know about the semester thing though. Would that lengthen my study period even more?
 
I'm confused, are you saying that you may want to take elementary analysis and then the regular calculus sequence?

Regardless, I think if you want to do honors math, take the Spivak course, or an equivalent intro analysis course. If you work hard, especially early on in your study of analysis, you will not be behind the students who have been exposed to calculus at OSU.
 
Actually, after hearing stories from friends it might be best for you to wait until fall 2012 before taking any year-long sequences (I don't actually go to OSU but a lot of my friends do and I took a few classes there a couple years ago). It sounds as if the transition to semesters is pretty messy.
 
snipez90 said:
I'm confused, are you saying that you may want to take elementary analysis and then the regular calculus sequence?

Regardless, I think if you want to do honors math, take the Spivak course, or an equivalent intro analysis course. If you work hard, especially early on in your study of analysis, you will not be behind the students who have been exposed to calculus at OSU.

That is exactly what I want to do! The problem is that the Spivak course is a three quarter course and the first course is only in the fall. =(. I will be starting in the winter.

shravas said:
Actually, after hearing stories from friends it might be best for you to wait until fall 2012 before taking any year-long sequences (I don't actually go to OSU but a lot of my friends do and I took a few classes there a couple years ago). It sounds as if the transition to semesters is pretty messy.

Ouch. Sounds like I might have transferred at the wrong time.
 

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