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The problem involves determining the values of variables m and n such that the vectors u = 2i + mj - 10k and v = i - 3j + nk are either parallel or perpendicular. The context is vector mathematics, specifically focusing on the properties of vector relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of the dot product to determine perpendicularity, noting that it should equal zero. There are also mentions of scalar multiples to establish parallelism, with some participants suggesting to set up equations based on the components of the vectors.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided definitions and explanations regarding the conditions for parallel and perpendicular vectors. There is an ongoing exploration of how to isolate the unknowns m and n, with participants expressing uncertainty about the next steps in solving the equations.

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Participants are navigating through the definitions and properties of vector operations, with some confusion about how to apply these concepts to the specific problem at hand. The original poster has indicated difficulty in progressing with both the parallel and perpendicular scenarios.

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Homework Statement


The question states "let u= 2i+mj-10k and v=i-3j+nk, find the value of n and m such that u,v are parallel", the second part states asks the same but "u,v are perpendicular"


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I attempted to use a dot product solution I guess, because vectors u+v should equal 0 when perpendicular. I'm lost on what to actually do. Thanks in advance.
 
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Remember the definition of the dot product:

\vec A \cdot \vec B = A_x B_x + A_y B_y + A_z B_z

As you correctly stated, for two perpendicular vectors, the dot product is 0.

Let two vectors, \vec w, \vec q be parallel. That means that they're both in the same direction, and therefore, they only differ by some scalar factor R (For instance, \vec q could be 2 times longer than \vec w (R=2) or it could be the same length, but anti-parallel (A negative R value of -1 would achieve that goal) or 2 times longer, but anti-parallel (R=-2)).

So in general, we can write: \vec q=R\vec w
Note that we've written a vector equation. That's actually 3 scalar equations in one. Simply solve for your three variables, R, m, n and you're done.

What's important is that you understand how we've identified parallel\anti-parallel vectors and perpendicular ones. Are these two points clear to you?
 
If two vectors

u=x1 i +y1 j + z1 k and v=x2 i +y2 j + z2 k

are parallel, then one of them is a multiple of the other

u=a*v (a is a scalar).

That means the same for all components:


x1=a*x2
y2=a*y2
z1=a*z2.

The two vectors are perpendicular if their dot product is 0 which means

x1x2 + y1y2+ z1z2 = 0.


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RoyalCat said:
Remember the definition of the dot product:

\vec A \cdot \vec B = A_x B_x + A_y B_y + A_z B_z

As you correctly stated, for two perpendicular vectors, the dot product is 0.

Let two vectors, \vec w, \vec q be parallel. That means that they're both in the same direction, and therefore, they only differ by some scalar factor R (For instance, \vec q could be 2 times longer than \vec w (R=2) or it could be the same length, but anti-parallel (A negative R value of -1 would achieve that goal) or 2 times longer, but anti-parallel (R=-2)).

So in general, we can write: \vec q=R\vec w
Note that we've written a vector equation. That's actually 3 scalar equations in one. Simply solve for your three variables, R, m, n and you're done.

What's important is that you understand how we've identified parallel\anti-parallel vectors and perpendicular ones. Are these two points clear to you?
I somewhat understand what you are saying, so are you saying I need to isolate the unknowns? I still don't fully understand this.
 
Yes, solve the linear system of equations.
 
Ok, trying this with the perpendicular qustion it'd be "(2i+mj-10k) . (i-3j+nk)=0". I would have 2 unknowns, how would I solve this. I still don't know how to go about the parallel question.
 

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