Help with length contraction and relativistic momentum please

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of length contraction and relativistic momentum in the context of a woman moving past an observer. The original poster presents a problem involving the measurement of the woman's height as perceived by the observer, given her proper height, mass, and relativistic momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between relativistic momentum and velocity, with the original poster expressing uncertainty about how to determine the velocity needed to solve the problem. Some participants suggest using the momentum equation to find velocity, while others discuss the implications of using relativistic formulas.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. The original poster has indicated a breakthrough in understanding the calculations involved, although there remains a focus on ensuring comprehension of the underlying concepts and methods.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern about the original poster's upcoming test and the need to understand the material without reliance on external resources. The discussion reflects a mix of confidence and uncertainty regarding mathematical skills and the application of relativistic equations.

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Homework Statement


A woman is 2.0 m tall and has a mass of 60 kg. She moves past an observer with the direction of the motion parallel to her height. The observer measures her relativistic momentum to have a magnitude of 2.30x1010 kg·m/s. What does the observer measure for her height?

Homework Equations


L=Lo √1 - (v2/c2)
p=mv/√1 - (v2/c2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm pretty sure that these are what the variables are
Lo= 2.0m proper length
p=2.3x1010
m=60kg
we want to solve for L

my problem is I don't know what v is, if I did i could find it.

I saw that L/Lo = mv/p
so L= Lomv/p right?

but i have no idea how to get v. i haven't had math in a while! any ideas or can you help me? I've tried an online equation solver for didn't work...
 
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You have p and m so you can solve the momentum equation for v.
 
well i got the answer as 1.24 but i had to use a function grapher and play around with the x and y mins and maxes to find what speed gives a momentum of 2.3E10! which was 0.79C

but i still want to know how to do this because there will be a test and i won't have the internet to help me

thanks in advance
 
Cyosis said:
You have p and m so you can solve the momentum equation for v.

yes but this is relativistic momentum not p=mv but
p=mv/√(1 - (v2/c2))
and i couldn't solve it for v... is it because I'm crap at math?
can you walk me through how to solve for it? maybe it's more algebra than physics but...
 
shamille said:
yes but this is relativistic momentum not p=mv but
p=mv/√(1 - (v2/c2))

There are still only three variables of which you know two.You know how to solve quadratic equations I assume?

[tex] \begin{align}<br /> p=mv \gamma=\frac{mv}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}<br /> \\ <br /> p\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}=mv<br /> \\ <br /> p^2(1-\frac{v^2}{c^2})=m^2v^2<br /> \end{align}[/tex]

Can you solve it from here on?
 
yes! wow as soon as i wrote that last message i figured it out. I don't know where my head was before... and then I used a - instead of +... gahhh

i'm sorry!

but thank you so much
 
You're welcome.
 

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