High-Quality Audio Crossover Filter Design: Tips and Guidelines

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The discussion revolves around the design of a band pass filter for a high-quality audio crossover circuit. Participants explore various aspects of filter design, including specifications, types of filters, and considerations for achieving minimal distortion.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on determining the maximum pass band attenuation for high-quality audio output, noting the specified filter range of 3kHz - 20kHz and a stop band attenuation of 80dB/decade.
  • Another participant questions the urgency of the request and asks for clarification on the type of filter (active or passive) and the definition of "minimum" distortion.
  • A participant mentions designing a 4th order Sallen-Key band pass filter with a maximum pass band attenuation of 3dB but expresses concern that this may lead to poor quality, seeking advice on how to select an appropriate value for maximum pass band attenuation.
  • There is a reference to a textbook on active filter design, with a suggestion that the participant may not be receiving sufficient information on filter characteristics from their current resources.
  • One participant shares a resource in the form of slides based on a textbook, which is later met with caution regarding file types due to potential security risks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the appropriate maximum pass band attenuation or the implications of using a 3dB value. There are multiple viewpoints regarding filter design and the urgency of the task, indicating ongoing exploration and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definition of "minimum" distortion and the implications of different pass band attenuation values on filter quality. The discussion includes references to specific filter topologies and resources, but no definitive conclusions are drawn.

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help with filter design-urgent

hello guys I have to design a band pass filter for high quality audio crosoveer circuit.
following are the given condidtions

filter range : 3kHz - 20khz
stop band attenuation : 80dB/decade
distortion in pass band should be minimum

can someone tell me how to decide maximum pass band attenuation to get high quality audio output
thanksP.S. friend told me that if we take maximum pass band attenuation as 3db filter qulity will decrease
 
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aruna1 said:
hello guys I have to design a band pass filter for high quality audio crosoveer circuit.
following are the given condidtions

filter range : 3kHz - 20khz
stop band attenuation : 80dB/decade
distortion in pass band should be minimum

can someone tell me how to decide maximum pass band attenuation to get high quality audio output
thanks


P.S. friend told me that if we take maximum pass band attenuation as 3db filter qulity will decrease

What is the application? Why is it urgent? Are you thinking active or passive filter (or digital even)? What kind of distortion spec is "minimum"?
 


applicationn: audio cross over
urgent- i have to submit it friday
filter type:active
about distrotion:i have no idea
 


aruna1 said:
applicationn: audio cross over
urgent- i have to submit it friday
filter type:active
about distrotion:i have no idea

Okay, thread moved to Homework Help.

What do you know about active filter design? You must have some resources available for this homework assignment. What are the main topologies (polynomials) for active filters? Which one would you choose for this assignment, and why?
 


berkeman said:
Okay, thread moved to Homework Help.

What do you know about active filter design? You must have some resources available for this homework assignment. What are the main topologies (polynomials) for active filters? Which one would you choose for this assignment, and why?

well i have some idea how to design this,and actually i desgned 4th order sellen key band pass filter considering maximum pass band attenuation as 3dB,
but then my friend told me with 3dB maximum pass band attenuation, filter will be poor quality.so all i need to know how to select value for maximum pass band attenuation

thanks
 


aruna1 said:
well i have some idea how to design this,and actually i desgned 4th order sellen key band pass filter considering maximum pass band attenuation as 3dB,
but then my friend told me with 3dB maximum pass band attenuation, filter will be poor quality.so all i need to know how to select value for maximum pass band attenuation

thanks

What textbook are you using? It sounds like you are not getting much information on the characteristics of various active filter topologies and applications. This chapter from a TI publication should be of help:

http://focus.ti.com/lit/ml/sloa088/sloa088.pdf

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i use microelectronic circuits by sedra/smith biiok
here are slides based on it

(rename this file to .zip exension. i had t rename it to pdf so i can bypass file size limit)
 

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ZIP files are discouraged here, since they can contain viruses. File name extension is similarly discouraged. Was the TI chapter of any help?
 


I'm still reading it
 

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