High school inequality 5 abc+acb+bca≥a+b+c.

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The discussion revolves around proving mathematical inequalities without using specific methods such as the AM-GM inequality or contradiction. Participants are exploring the inequality involving three variables, \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\), and also discussing the implications of the squeeze theorem in this context.

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  • Some participants propose proving the inequality \(\frac{ab}{c}+\frac{ac}{b}+\frac{bc}{a}\geq a+b+c\) without using AM-GM, under the condition that \(a, b, c > 0\).
  • Others suggest proving that if \(a \leq b\) and \(b \leq a\), then \(a = b\), without using contradiction.
  • Several participants inquire about the squeeze theorem, indicating a lack of clarity on its relevance to the current proofs being discussed.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the connection between the squeeze theorem and the inequalities being discussed, requesting further elaboration.

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The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on the proofs and the relevance of the squeeze theorem. Participants are seeking clarification and further explanation.

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Participants have not reached consensus on the proofs or the application of the squeeze theorem, and there are unresolved questions regarding the connections between the concepts discussed.

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1)Prove without using AM-GM :$$\frac{ab}{c}+\frac{ac}{b}+\frac{bc}{a}\geq a+b+c$$...... a,b,c >02) Prove without using contradiction :

$$a\leq b\wedge b\leq a\Longrightarrow a=b$$
 
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solakis said:
1)Prove without using AM-GM :$$\frac{ab}{c}+\frac{ac}{b}+\frac{bc}{a}\geq a+b+c$$...... a,b,c >02) Prove without using contradiction :

$$a\leq b\wedge b\leq a\Longrightarrow a=b$$
my solution:
(1)$\times abc$
we have to prove :$(ab)^2+(bc)^2+(ca)^2>(abc)\times (a+b+c)=a^2bc+b^2ca+c^2ab$
for $(A-B)^2=A^2-2AB+B^2$
$\therefore A^2+B^2>2AB---(3)$
likewise $B^2+C^2>2BC---(4)$
$C^2+A^2>2CA---(5)$
(3)+(4)+(5) we have $A^2+B^2+C^2>AB+BC+CA$
let $A=ab,B=bc,C=ca$
and the proof is done
(2)The statement A ∧ B is true if A and B are both true; else it is false.(definition of ∧:logical conjunction)
by using squeeze theorem we get:
$$a\leq b\wedge b\leq a\Longrightarrow a=b$$
 
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Albert said:
my solution:
(1)$\times abc$
we have to prove :$(ab)^2+(bc)^2+(ca)^2>(abc)\times (a+b+c)=a^2bc+b^2ca+c^2ab$
for $(A-B)^2=A^2-2AB+B^2$
$\therefore A^2+B^2>2AB---(3)$
likewise $B^2+C^2>2BC---(4)$
$C^2+A^2>2CA---(5)$
(3)+(4)+(5) we have $A^2+B^2+C^2>AB+BC+CA$
let $A=ab,B=bc,C=ca$
and the proof is done
(2)The statement A ∧ B is true if A and B are both true; else it is false.(definition of ∧:logical conjunction)
by using squeeze theorem we get:
$$a\leq b\wedge b\leq a\Longrightarrow a=b$$

Sorry , but what is the squeeze theorem ??
 
solakis said:
I am sorry but i fail to see the connection.

If you would care to elaborate a bit more
for example :
since $cos \,x\leq \dfrac {sin\, x}{x}\leq 1$
so $ \dfrac {sin \,x}{x} $ approaches 1 as x approaches 0
 

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