Hillary Clinton's Proposal for Katrina Commission

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The discussion revolves around Hillary Clinton's proposal for a federal investigation into the failures of the relief effort following Hurricane Katrina. Participants explore the implications of such an investigation, debating its necessity, potential effectiveness, and the broader context of disaster management.

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  • Some participants argue that a federal investigation would be a waste of money and unlikely to yield useful results, suggesting that the failures are already well understood, such as FEMA's unpreparedness and inadequate levee construction in New Orleans.
  • Others contend that understanding the root causes of the failures is essential for effective disaster management, asserting that without an investigation, superficial fixes will not address deeper issues.
  • A few participants express skepticism about the motivations behind Clinton's proposal, suggesting it may be a strategy to gain media attention rather than a genuine effort to improve disaster response.
  • There are discussions about the appropriate level of government (federal vs. state) responsible for disaster response, with some arguing that state governments should be the first responders, while others believe federal oversight is warranted due to the scale of the failure.
  • Some participants highlight the need for structural changes, such as elevating the FEMA director to a cabinet-level position, to improve disaster response effectiveness.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for investigations to devolve into blame-shifting rather than constructive solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the necessity and effectiveness of a federal investigation into the relief efforts. While some believe it is essential for identifying and addressing failures, others view it as an unnecessary expenditure that will not lead to meaningful change.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the roles of federal and state governments in disaster response, and there is an acknowledgment of the complexities involved in addressing systemic failures in emergency management.

  • #31
The Department of Homeland Security was the responsible entity here.
This could just as easily been a bungled response to a terrorist attack.
There must be an investigation.
 
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  • #32
Skyhunter said:
If you are only open to half the argument, and the extreme half at that, you will never be able to look at an issue objectively.

ha, want to see extreme views? Go look at your past posts.
 
  • #33
Pengwuino said:
ha, want to see extreme views? Go look at your past posts.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
  • #34
Thousands of American citizens are dead because of incompetence, and you don't want an investigation? Is that because you're worried what the investigation might find?
 
  • #35
I thought that investigations of this sort of thing happened anyway and that it is only when the agencies involved aren't trusted that a higher up commision is put together.
 
  • #36
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What are your opinions?
I think the relatives of the victims have a right to know what went wrong, why it went wrong and the identities of those responsible.

I also believe it is essential it should be a thorough independent investigation such as a judicial inquiry to keep politics to a minimum with a brief to have the investigation complete within 6 months.

The outcome of this should be a detailed timeline of events with a detailed analysis of who did what and when. the report should include a list of recommendations detailing what needs to be done to prevent a repeat and if warranted recommendations of criminal charges for negligence against those who did not perform their duties in a responsible manner.

Without such an inquiry the blame game will simply rumble on, incompetents will remain in their jobs and no lessons will be learned from this disaster thus leaving the country open to the same happening again.
 
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