Hills Hoist Mechanism: Understanding the Function and Assembly | Explained

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The discussion revolves around understanding the mechanism of a traditional 'hills hoist' clothesline, focusing on its function and assembly. Participants explore the mechanical workings, potential modifications, and design considerations related to the system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how the hills hoist mechanism operates, specifically questioning whether the entire handle assembly moves along a central threaded rod.
  • Another participant clarifies that the handle assembly does not move along the threaded rod; instead, the crank handle rotates and drives a lead screw up or down while the threaded rod remains stationary.
  • A participant seeks to create a system that allows for the threaded rod to extend while also rotating 360 degrees, questioning if this can be achieved by modifying a hills hoist.
  • One participant notes that mechanical advantage increases with more turns, prompting questions about the required extension per revolution, the diameter of the central shaft, and the mass of the payload.
  • In response to the modification inquiry, a participant suggests that replacing the lead screw with a different mechanism could allow for a single rotation per full height extension, but acknowledges the difficulty and expense of such a modification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic operation of the hills hoist mechanism, but there is no consensus on the feasibility of modifying it to achieve the desired rotation and extension simultaneously. Multiple competing views on the modification exist.

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Participants have not fully resolved the specific design requirements or limitations for the proposed modifications, including the necessary dimensions and payload considerations.

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Firstly, am struggling to wrap my head around exactly how the mechanism for a traditional 'hills hoist' (as seen below) clothesline functions.

Hills_Hoist_Balwyn_Victoria.JPG


The handle can be turned in order to raise the clotheslines but from my googling, the mechanism is different to what I was expecting.

Would be greatly appreciated if someone were able to explain to me how systems such as the ones shown below function.

repair-kit-heritage-hoist.jpg

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Does the entire handle assembly move along the central threaded rod, pushing up the upper section?

If so is there a way to achieve this with the handle assembly fixed?

Feel like it's probably quite a simple answer but haven't been able to find much specific information on it
 
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TheNarrator said:
Does the entire handle assembly move along the central threaded rod, pushing up the upper section?

No. In the top image, the only visibly moving parts are the crank handle rotating and everything above 2/3 the height of the fence moving upward (the photo shows it in it's lowermost position).

In your second image:
Only the threaded rod moves up or down,it doesn't rotate, all others parts rotate or are stationary.
The hand crank rotates the LH bevel gear which rotates the RH bevel gear whose internal threading drives the lead screw up or down. The lower brass coloured collar prevents the lead screw from rotating.
 
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Thanks for your response.

So that means the handle assembly is fastened to the exterior stationary pole in some way correct?

I need to make a system like this where the threaded rods extends but want it to rotate through 360deg (preferably only once) as it extends. is there a way to achieve this by modifying a hills hoist or am I on the wrong track completely?
 
The reason for lots of turns is: in general mechanical advantage increases as the rate of the extension per turn decreases.

Questions you need to answer:
So - how much extension or retraction is required for one revolution?
Diameter of the central shaft == ?
Mass of the "stuff" or payload at the top of the rod == ?
 
TheNarrator said:
Thanks for your response.

So that means the handle assembly is fastened to the exterior stationary pole in some way correct?
That's right.

I need to make a system like this where the threaded rods extends but want it to rotate through 360deg (preferably only once) as it extends. is there a way to achieve this by modifying a hills hoist or am I on the wrong track completely?
If you replaced the lead screw with one something like this:
Helix cut lead screw.PNG


It'd rotate once per full height extension. Though, that'd be very difficult/expensive to make.
If you give us details of what you're trying to do we may have better suggestions.
 
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