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The discussion on History Channel's "Ancient Aliens" centers around skepticism of the show's theories, particularly regarding ancient civilizations and their potential interactions with extraterrestrial beings. Participants express doubts about the validity of claims, such as aliens interbreeding with humans and the idea that the pyramids served as power plants. Many consider the show's conclusions to be far-fetched and lacking scientific support, labeling it as pseudoscience and criticizing its appeal to conspiracy theorists. Some viewers find the show entertaining but caution against taking its claims seriously, noting the use of misleading techniques to present speculative ideas as fact. The conversation also touches on the importance of critical thinking and media literacy in evaluating such content, with suggestions for educational approaches to debunking these theories. Overall, the consensus leans towards viewing "Ancient Aliens" as a source of entertainment rather than credible historical analysis.
  • #31
Monsterboy said:
I watched a few episodes of this after repeated requests from my friends ,i not really convinced by their theories but since my knowledge of physics is limited ,i might need some help in either dismissing or accepting their theories, i hope those who are reading this have know what i am talking about.

Yeah, I know. Like Chariots of the Gods. There's a problem though: way too far, way hostile environment, and massively contingent. In my opinion, based on these barriers, it it much more reasonable to conclude that in the entire history of the Universe, there has never been physical contact between independently-evolved intellegent life forms from different solar systems.

Now, doesn't that feel much better?
 
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  • #32
How many people over here feel that the authors of the show took inspiration from Kubrick's movie 2001: A Space Odyssey based on Arthur Clarke's Sci fi book ?

I wonder why they did not show the monolith in some episode. :biggrin: (or did they ?)
 
  • #33
glb_lub said:
How many people over here feel that the authors of the show took inspiration from Kubrick's movie 2001: A Space Odyssey based on Arthur Clarke's Sci fi book ?

Clarke and Kubrick collaborated on the screenplay. The novel came later. By the way, the Jupiter monolith was a combination of Stonehenge and a near-death vision of CG Jung. He experienced a Hindu temple that was orbiting the Earth.
 
  • #34
micromass said:
Of course, you are skeptic towards the ancient alien theory (this is why you made the OP), because you know the entire premise is absurd. But still, you find that you had no rational arguments against the show. You had to watch another video to see why the show is flawed (and thus: taking another authority for granted).

No ,i have rational arguments with what little knowledge i have ,that's the reason i became a skeptic.
(1)first of all aliens cannot directly expose themselves to our atmosphere because their immune system will not be familiar with our bacteria ,viruses etc given this ,interbreeding of species will lead to offsprings only when the two species are very close to each other let alone species who have evolved in entirely different ecosystems ,so interbreeding between humans and aliens is not believable.

(2) Let us assume that aliens did bring all that technology to us ,then where did all that go? why didn't Egyptian light bulb etc survive till the modern times? even if the aliens left ,i don't think it would be so difficult for the Egyptians to build those light bulbs and batteries themselves ,they knew about metals,they are the ones built them with alien help ,they don't really have know the exact theory behind how the batteries and light bulbs work ,they can build it by knowing about all the raw materials required and how to assemble them. For example i might know how to assemble a computer but i may not know how exactly ,the motherboard ,processor ,harddisk ,RAM actually functions and what each and every circuit does. Egyptians did not contain anything as complicated as any of the computer parts so it was easier to build them and assemble.

(3) If ancient people had flying machines and runways,how come they never had automobiles like bikes ,cars ,trains ? i don't think the ancient aliens have mentioned anything about ancient cars or trucks ,have they? i haven't seen all the seasons.

(4)Maybe we were fond of stone structures back then but why would aliens make us built their landing pads and runways,pyramids etc out of stone? they could got all the work done in a much easier and faster way with somekind of super strong hightech concrete which can be cast into any shape and size and last for centuries atleast.

(5)I saw an episode in which they were talking about peru and that not all dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago but some of them lived as recently as 10,000 BCE and that Aliens killed them to make way for humans because humans were not capable of killing them ,Humans were all over the world by 10,000 BCE except maybe Antarctica and few other places why kill dinosaurs in peru?

If dinosaurs did exist in 10,000 BCE in peru or south America ,then by that time they could have easily wiped out all the mammals over their.

But all these are logical arguments and (not technical) and some of the theories can only be denied if i can go to all the places they mention and have a look myself but that's not going to happen in the near future.

I wanted technical/scientific reasons to justify/dimiss certain theories of pyramids being power plants etc ,that's why i started this thread
 
  • #35
Monsterboy said:
No ,i have rational arguments with what little knowledge i have ,that's the reason i became a skeptic.
(1)first of all aliens cannot directly expose themselves to our atmosphere because their immune system will not be familiar with our bacteria ,viruses etc given this ,interbreeding of species will lead to offsprings only when the two species are very close to each other let alone species who have evolved in entirely different ecosystems ,so interbreeding between humans and aliens is not believable.

(2) Let us assume that aliens did bring all that technology to us ,then where did all that go? why didn't Egyptian light bulb etc survive till the modern times? even if the aliens left ,i don't think it would be so difficult for the Egyptians to build those light bulbs and batteries themselves ,they knew about metals,they are the ones built them with alien help ,they don't really have know the exact theory behind how the batteries and light bulbs work ,they can build it by knowing about all the raw materials required and how to assemble them. For example i might know how to assemble a computer but i may not know how exactly ,the motherboard ,processor ,harddisk ,RAM actually functions and what each and every circuit does. Egyptians did not contain anything as complicated as any of the computer parts so it was easier to build them and assemble.

(3) If ancient people had flying machines and runways,how come they never had automobiles like bikes ,cars ,trains ? i don't think the ancient aliens have mentioned anything about ancient cars or trucks ,have they? i haven't seen all the seasons.

(4)Maybe we were fond of stone structures back then but why would aliens make us built their landing pads and runways,pyramids etc out of stone? they could got all the work done in a much easier and faster way with somekind of super strong hightech concrete which can be cast into any shape and size and last for centuries atleast.

(5)I saw an episode in which they were talking about peru and that not all dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago but some of them lived as recently as 10,000 BCE and that Aliens killed them to make way for humans because humans were not capable of killing them ,Humans were all over the world by 10,000 BCE except maybe Antarctica and few other places why kill dinosaurs in peru?

If dinosaurs did exist in 10,000 BCE in peru or south America ,then by that time they could have easily wiped out all the mammals over their.

But all these are logical arguments and (not technical) and some of the theories can only be denied if i can go to all the places they mention and have a look myself but that's not going to happen in the near future.

I wanted technical/scientific reasons to justify/dimiss certain theories of pyramids being power plants etc ,that's why i started this thread

(1) I totally agree interbreeding isn't possible and that alien would probably have problems with our environment. In my scenario, the real "alien" remains in space and the "improved humans" are the ones who interact with the locals.

(2) and (3) The "improved humans" only have what technology the alien let them have, with limited capability for repair or improvement, and every bit of it would have been extremely precious.

(4) and (5) I don't believe their flying machines needed runways (that would be a stupid design, given that there weren't any before they arrived). From Ezekiel etc., it does seem that the improved humans wanted the locals to help them build a "temple", which could have been related to a landing pad for the mother ship, but I consider that extremely speculative.
 
  • #36
Jonathan Scott said:
(1) I totally agree interbreeding isn't possible and that alien would probably have problems with our environment. In my scenario, the real "alien" remains in space and the "improved humans" are the ones who interact with the locals.

Why are you certain that interbreeding isn't possible?
 
  • #37
Any civilisation capable of getting here in the first place is most likely capable of very advanced forms of genetic manipulation or indded other tech we havn't dreamed of yet. Interbreeding is a non issue I'd say.
I can think of one reason why aliens might want to interbreed (communication - aliens could be VERY alien indeed) but that's about all.

Getting here in the first place is the big problem.
It's possible of course but so far no one has produced a single shred of evidence to support the notion.

What makes me angry is broadcasting such stuff on a "history" channel. This passes off what is clearly a financial fraud as something akin to genuine historical research. This damages genuide archaeologists
credibility (although most of them seem barmy as a bag of spanners to me) and confuses the uneducated.
Such obvious deciept warrants police involvement as far as I'm concerned.
 
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