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Horizontal velocity over an uneven surface

  1. Dec 24, 2014 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    A small ball of m=1kg at height hp = 8m at point p, is given an initial horizontal speed vp = 10 m/s. It slides over an uneven frictionless surface. What is speed vq of the ball at height hq = 3m at point q?
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    2. Relevant equations
    Ui + KEi = Uf + KEf

    3. The attempt at a solution
    I figured out how to find the velocity at point q, but when I first did the problem, I thought that the horizontal velocity wouldn't change because there is no horizontal force acting on the ball. The surface is frictionless, so going back to kinematics, if you throw a ball at an angle, the horizontal velocity doesn't change because gravity only acts downward, so I thought it would remain at 10 m/s. But the speed actually increased to 14 m/s after I solved it using the total energy equation.
    Why was my first way wrong?
     
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  3. Dec 24, 2014 #2

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    In this case the ball isn't falling, but sliding. The surface exercises a normal force on the ball that is directed perpendicular to the surface (hence the name normal). That normal force has a non-zero horizontal component, so it increases v when the ball goes down, and it slows the thing down when going uphill. Roller coaster physics !

    (Of course, at Q the normal force is straight up again).
     
  4. Dec 24, 2014 #3
    Oh I see! I forgot about the normal force here. Thanks!
     
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