How are black holes linked to worm holes, or are they the same thing,

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The discussion explores the relationship between black holes and wormholes, questioning whether they are linked or the same phenomenon. Participants consider the implications of these concepts for transportation through space and the possibility of accessing other universes or dimensions.

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  • Some participants propose that black holes are massive objects with gravitational fields so strong that light cannot escape, while wormholes are theoretical constructs that connect different points in spacetime.
  • One participant suggests that black holes might be leaking matter or energy back to another dimension, speculating on the nature of the big bang and its connection to black holes.
  • Another participant emphasizes that black holes do not spontaneously lose matter and that current theories, including Hawking radiation, suggest that energy is eventually returned to the observable universe.
  • There is a general acknowledgment that wormholes are hypothetical and that the conditions for their existence are considered unlikely.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the existence of extra dimensions or other universes, noting the lack of observational evidence.

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Participants express a mix of viewpoints, with some agreeing on the theoretical nature of wormholes and the lack of evidence for extra dimensions, while others propose speculative ideas about black holes and their potential connections to other universes. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

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Participants note limitations in experimental evidence regarding black holes and the theoretical nature of wormholes. There are unresolved questions about the mechanisms of black holes and their interactions with the universe.

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How are black holes linked to worm holes, or are they the same thing, for example can you use any of them to transport through space, and if you can, would it go to a different location of the universe your in, or can it go to another universe as in another dimension?
 
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A black hole is simply a mass large enough to create a gravitational field strong enough that light cannot escape it. They do not necessarily have anything to do with wormholes, which are topological anomalies that connect one point in spacetime with another, perhaps very far away. They are hypothetical, and whimsical.

Traveling to "another universe" or "another dimension" are unlikely, whatever they might mean.

- Warren
 


'Black Hole' is a collapsed star, with strong gravitational pull. To enter a 'Black Hole' is as to enter into the sun (Only your protons and electrons might escape from suns poll one day, but not from a 'Black Hole':)

'Black Hole' is not a hole..
 


Wormholes are theoretical. Meaning, so far they don't exist.
And the conditions needed to have one are so slim I doubt there ever will one. But I could be wrong...
They're the stuff science fiction thrives on.
 


Greetings.
I've been watching the TV series "The Universe" and the show was describing how the big bang singularity may have resulted from the bumping of two different dimensions or realities. If all the matter/ energy from our universe came from the dimension 'next to' us, then who says that our dimension can not give matter/ energy back to that dimension?
What I'm saying is that the big bang might have caused a leek of mater into our world, but conversely, what if a black hole is slowly 'leaking' matter/ energy back to the orignal dimension? I'm no physicist yet so I'm only speculating. But since I've never heard of observations of places where matter seems to 'appear from nowhere', I would speculate that the matter is actually being transferred to another universe. Sounds crazy but a visual helps.

Basically, what if black holes are transferring energy from our universe into another one?

Regards,
-Tay
 


So far, we haven't been able to do a lot of experiments on black holes, and that's a shame. Even the most universally accepted notions of black holes are not proven by observation or experiment. [Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation] None the less, according to (my understanding) of current theory, a BH doesn't spontaneously lose matter. That is, there's no evidence that anything leaves our universe. Hawking has merged general relativity and quantum calculations in an unholy alliance to predict that a BH radiates, and eventually evaporates. But nothing leaves the universe: for a while the matter/energy is stuck in the black hole, but then it radiates out and is back in the observable universe. If we could actually weigh (determine the mass of) a real black hole, and measure its radiation, then we could tell if the accounts were balanced: did the BH lose weight at the same rate as it radiated energy? Until we can do the equivalent, I don't suppose we can rule out strange connections to other dimensions, but we also have no evidence to support them.
 
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Agreed, there is no observational evidence of extra dimensions or other universes. Hawking radiation is logical. Black holes must eventually return their sequestered energy to this universe due to the laws of entropy. Hawking radiation, which has been indirectly confirmed, is consistent with this principle.
 

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