How are Equations for Different Series Generated?

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The discussion revolves around the generation of equations for different numerical series, specifically focusing on how to derive polynomial expressions that represent the nth term of given sequences. Participants explore the relationships between the series and their corresponding polynomial forms, including linear, quadratic, and cubic equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the derivation of the cubic polynomial equation ##T_n=a(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)+b(n-1)(n-2)+c(n-1)+d## for the series 1, 2, 5, 12, 25...
  • Others discuss the quadratic polynomial ##T_n=an^2+bn+c## for the series 3, 7, 13, 21..., noting that the second differences are constant.
  • A participant suggests that the choice of polynomial form is related to the nature of the differences in the series, with cubic forms arising when third differences are constant.
  • One participant questions why a different polynomial form, such as ##T_n=a(n-4)(n-8)+b(n-25)+c##, is not used, prompting further exploration of polynomial representation.
  • Another participant explains the advantages of the chosen cubic form for simplifying the process of finding coefficients, particularly how specific values of n can lead to simplifications that help solve for constants.
  • Several participants express gratitude for the insights shared, indicating a collaborative atmosphere in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the polynomial nature of the equations but explore different forms and methods of derivation. There is no consensus on the necessity or superiority of one polynomial form over another, and questions remain regarding the choice of specific expressions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the differences in sequences and how they relate to polynomial degrees, but some assumptions about the nature of the series and the derivation process remain unaddressed.

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Given series:1,2,5,12,25...
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How did they get :##T_n=a(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)+b(n-1)(n-2)+c(n-1)+d##

And for series like 3,7,13,21,...
they have given ##T_n=an^2+bn+c##

How do you get these equations?
 
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AdityaDev said:
Given series:1,2,5,12,25...
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How did they get :##T_n=a(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)+b(n-1)(n-2)+c(n-1)+d##

And for series like 3,7,13,21,...
Based on the image, this should be 1, 3, 7, 13, 21, ...
AdityaDev said:
they have given ##T_n=an^2+bn+c##

How do you get these equations?
If the first consecutive differences happened to all be the same constant, the solution would have been a linear (first-degree) polynomial. If the second differences turned out to be a constant (as in the sequence 1, 3, 7, 13, 21, ...), the solution would be a quadratic (second-degree) polynomial, which you could write as Tn = a(n - 1)(n - 2) + b(n - 1) + c.

In your problem, which involves the sequence 1, 2, 5, 12, 25, 46, ... the third differences are all 2, so the solution will be a cubic (third-degree) polynomial, which they write as ##T_n = a(n - 1)(n - 2)(n - 3) + b(n - 1)(n - 2) + c(n - 1) + d##
What they do after this is to solve for the coefficients a, b, c, and d, noting that T1 = 1, T2 = 2, T3 = 5, and T4 = 12. IOW, Tn is just the nth term in the sequence.

As an aside, 1, 3, 7, 13, 21, ... is a sequence of numbers, not a series. In a series, all the numbers are added together to produce a sum.

I'm pretty rusty on this stuff, as it has been many years since I did anything with difference equations. Nevertheless, I was able to get the coefficients a, b, c, and d, and was able to get the correct value for T5, so I think I'm on the right track.
 
Why is it T_n=a(n-1)(n-2).. why not ##T_n=a(n-4)(n-8)+b(n-25)+c##
 
If you ignore the way they've expressed it for the moment, you can still agree that it's a cubic, correct? It could just as easily be expanded and turned into the general cubic form
[tex]T_n=An^3+Bn^2+Cn+D[/tex]
where A,B,C,D are likely going to be different constants to a,b,c,d but equate to the same cubic.

Now, why was that particular form chosen?

Well, picking n=1 gives us [itex]T_1=a(1-1)(1-2)(1-3)+b(1-1)(1-2)+c(1-1)+d[/itex]. Now, notice that any (n-1) factor gives us 0, hence we end up with [itex]T_1=a*0+b*0+c*0+d=d[/itex] so with this form, we can easily find d, as opposed to having the general cubic with coefficients A,B,C,D that I had shown above. In that case, [itex]T_1=A+B+C+D[/itex] and we're hardly any closer to finding the solution.

So, we have [itex]T_1=d=1[/itex] and we've already knocked one of the coefficients out of the way. [itex]T_2[/itex] turns out to give us a constant as well by following a similar idea.
[tex]T_2=a(2-1)(2-2)(2-3)+b(2-1)(2-2)+c(2-1)+d[/tex]
and again, notice that (n-2) factors would equal zero, hence we end up with [itex]T_2=a*0+b*0+c+d=c+d[/itex]. But we already found d=1, so [itex]T_2=c+1=2[/itex] hence [itex]c=1[/itex]. For n=3, you'll end up with just b,c,d and can solve for b easily since you know c,d.
 
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Thank you @Mentallic

You're welcome, and good luck with your studies!
 

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