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okie so cyrogenic processor is one thing but there has to be some phenomenon which is used to measure cyrogenic temperature?
The discussion revolves around the measurement of very low temperatures, specifically focusing on techniques and instruments suitable for cryogenic temperatures, including those around -180 degrees Celsius. Participants explore various types of thermometers and sensors, their calibration, and practical considerations in cryogenic thermometry.
Participants express differing views on the definition of low temperatures, with some arguing that -180 degrees Celsius is not considered low in the context of cryogenics. There is no consensus on the best methods or instruments for measuring very low temperatures, as various approaches and techniques are discussed without agreement on a single solution.
Participants note that the effectiveness of different thermometers can depend on calibration and the specific temperature range being measured. There are unresolved questions about the best practices for calibration and the selection of appropriate sensors for various temperature ranges.
This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in cryogenic physics, thermometry, and the practical aspects of measuring low temperatures in experimental settings.
luke1970 said:Using a piece of equiptment delicate enough to observe the electron movement is one way, and probably the most effective.
In the range between 13.81 and 903.89 K...a platinum resistance thermometer is used as the interpolating instrument [between various levels of the IPTS, which has various phase-transition based "official" temperatures]...Below 13.81 K no precisely defined procedure has been agreed. In the range between 5.2 and 13.81 K various scales based on the vapor pressure of hydrogen are in practical use. Below 5.12 K...down to about .3 K the 1958 and 1962 helium scales are widely used as de facto extensions of IPTS 1968
but can't i find a proper method , on when to claibrate , which special thermometers or diodes are used and how they function ? Thanks for your help !f95toli said:I am not sure I understand your question.
All you need in order to measure low temperatures is a thermometer.
A thermometer designed to be used at or near room temperature (300K) will obviously not work very well at cryogenic temperatures, but that is to a large extent because it is not calibrated (and the materials used are not ideal for very low temperatures).
Some temperature sensors that are used at low temperatures (silicon diodes), work quite OK even well above room temperature.
Now, measuring VERY low temperatures (below say 0.3K) is somewhat trickier, but -180 degrees C can be measured even with something as simple as a 50p schottky diode as long as you calibrate it first, all you need to do is to bias it as some current and then measure how the voltage changes with temperature.
edit: Take a look at the following webpage
http://www.lakeshore.com/temp/sen/smindex.html
Lakeshore is one of the biggest suppliers of temperature sensors and e.g. their DT470 Si diode is widely used (I am in fact installing one in a probe tomorrow)
If you don't need 50mK accuracy and repeatability, you could probably find a Pt RTD for about half that price.f95toli said:That said, it is not really that complicated. Just buy a sensor suitable for the temperature range you are interested in from e.g. Lakeshore (see the link above). A sensor that follows a standard resistance vs. temperature curve (which is usually accurate enough) costs something like $200.